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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:58 pm
Lately, Kenna, my 3 year old Schnauzer, has been acting out. I'm not real sure whats going on to make her do so. It started about a week ago when my grandmother brough her home with her. She came back the next day and said that she didn't want her because she chewed up a really old piece of lace. But I've noticed other things. Shes been mesing in the house a lot, and chewing every piece of my clothing, not my boyfriends, not my roommates, she can get her little teeth on and just tonight, she bit a neighbors dog (the biggest Aussie I have ever seen) on the nose, causing a good deal of bleeding and whimpering. I felt so bad. I can't have her biting any more dogs, one will bite back and really hurt her, or she might really hurt a smaller dog.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:38 pm
sounds like a vet visit is in order to rule out any health problems.
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Gabrielle_AnimalLuver Crew
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:45 pm
I second a vet visit, however if this is strictly behaviourial...
Sometimes people tend to take good behaviour for granted, and tend to slack on things that they were really hardcore about when the dogs were puppies. Socialization tends to slack, as does obedience. Behaviours must be kept up, like socializing with other dogs. Take her to dog parks, have her socialize with other doggy friends. However, don't expect her to like every single dog she meets, because thats unrealistic for any dog, because just like humans some dogs just don't like others for no particular reason.. and they deal with that with growling, snapping and biting. Also, since your dog actually punctured the skin of this aussie, you should take it a bit more seriously than if she only left a wet spot, because that means her bite inhibition is not up to par. Bite inhibition is just basically teaching a dog to be soft with their mouths so when they are inclined to bite, they won't hurt badly or puncture the skin. Again, dogs are very good at teaching this however you also need to step in as well. Get your hands in her mouth, with hand feeding kibble, examining her mouth or brushing her teeth.. just teach her to be gentle.
Chewing up things just means she's bored.. destroying things is something that not only puppies do. Exercise her mind and body, more so than usual as she might be getting bored if you're in a routine.. and it's understandable. You probably do walk her but is it the same route all the time? Same houses, perhaps the same dogs she encounters on the walk.. go a different way, take her downtown just get her out for some new sights and smells. Teach a new trick.. rollover, wash and rinse (spinning around clockwise for wash, spinning the other for rinse or vice versa.) etc etc.
Everything you're having problems with is simply just dog behaviour.. chewing and biting. Can be solved quite easily. smile
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:45 pm
Deffinently, I'm calling first thing in the morning.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:53 pm
I've had this dog for quite a while, and have not had a single problem, with her messing int he house, or attacking other dogs, She goes out with me all the time, and a trip to the dog park is a daily thing. The aussie she bit goes with us to the park 4 days out of the week. She knows this dog, it was a completely unprovked attack. I'm just greatful that I had her on a lead. She is never left with out chewies when I'm not home, nor is she allowed in the bedrooms, all the doors are closed when no one is home.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:16 pm
Could be a revenge thing, "How dare you get rid of her and send her away?!" type of mentality. A lot of people say dogs don't do that sort of thing but I've seen a lot of things that point otherwise. If it was me I'd take her to the vet and rule out health issues, then boot the furry right back into doggie bootcamp. Training from the ground up to let her know the behavior is not allowed.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:19 pm
I have a vets appoinment for next thursday... Last night she ate a hole in my bed spread... If the things she's eating won't killer her, I just might.
(not really, I'm just really frustrated with her right now.)
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:46 pm
Whiskey On A Sunday I've had this dog for quite a while, and have not had a single problem, with her messing int he house, or attacking other dogs, She goes out with me all the time, and a trip to the dog park is a daily thing. The aussie she bit goes with us to the park 4 days out of the week. She knows this dog, it was a completely unprovked attack. I'm just greatful that I had her on a lead. She is never left with out chewies when I'm not home, nor is she allowed in the bedrooms, all the doors are closed when no one is home. Actually it is very likely that was partially the cause of the bite. Dogs on lead often feel insecure and at a disadvantage. They can't properly meet or greet other dogs because there movements are restricted. Often the line goes tight when they try to pull forward to meet another dog, making their body look tense, and causing a chain reaction with the dog they are meeting. They also often greet face first which is considered an aggressive/dominant move in dog society. Normally dogs will swing in from the side and back when greeting a new dog because it is a much politer way to say hello. The restriction of the leash also means they can't flee and they are well aware of that. Take out flight and all you got left is fight if a dog is feeling insecure. If she is normally fine at the dog park than my guess would be this is leash related which isn't unusual considering many dogs who are perfectly fine off leash suffer from leash reactivity. Was the other dog on leash when they met? How did you have them greet, head on? Also describe what you mean by the other dog did nothing wrong. So often people use words like friendly and unprovoked when describing some of the rudest dogs on earth. Exactly what was the other dog doing when your dog attacked? Also where their any warning signs to your dog prior attacking? Was your dog fixated, cocked ears, tense, any snarling or lip curling?
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:08 pm
At first Kenna didn't have a problem with Jack and his owner, Jack came up and they greeted each other, and he wandered off. I sat on the curb to talk to my neighbor Kenna laying beside me when Jack comes up and lays beside her, she stands up and lunges at him. As far asa I could see, he did nothing wrong.
On a different note. Kenna went to the emergence vet this afternoon, and is staying the night. She started heaving, I assumed that she was just going to barf up the section of comferter that she ate the night before, after about an hour or som, she was still heaving and nothing had come up yet. I took her in, they took x-rays and confirmd that there was a solid mass in her stomach, and if it didn't pass by noon tommorrow, they would have to do surgery.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:30 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:21 pm
Oh dear. Emergency visits are always so expensive. I hope she pulls through everything ok, and you might consider crating to keep her from a repeat.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:49 pm
First, I'm sorry that your doggie is sick. It's not a fun thing to deal with. I know. Secondly, I disagree with the 'revenge' version. I am actually a dog trainer and it is simply not how dogs work. They don't act that way. They don't do things spitefully. They don't understand the concept. It was most likely provoked from something. If you have just started a new job and aren't able to spend as much time with her, schedule change or anything like that, it could very well cause it. Schnauzers are dogs that have to have motivation and activity. If they don't have that activity for any length of time then they get bored and destructive. I wouldn't necessarily put her back on a hard 'bootcamp' persay. Just work with her. Take her out to the nearest dogpark. If they have agility equiptment. That's even better. Use her hyperactivity to your advantage and wear her out. Here's another tip for her chewing on your stuff. Go to your nearest Petsmart. They have a product there that is called Bitter Apple. Buy it. Spray it on the stuff she's not supposed to have. Believe me. She won't want to touch it after the first taste. Trust me. This stuff is my best friend in my classes with dogs that are chewing. It's amazing. If you have any more problems or questions. Give me a PM. I'll be happy to help. And that goes for everyone. I will help in any way I can.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:41 pm
amethyst_snow87 Go to your nearest Petsmart. They have a product there that is called Bitter Apple. Buy it. Spray it on the stuff she's not supposed to have. Believe me. She won't want to touch it after the first taste. Trust me. This stuff is my best friend in my classes with dogs that are chewing. It's amazing. If you have any more problems or questions. Give me a PM. I'll be happy to help. And that goes for everyone. I will help in any way I can. Lawls, my dog loved the taste of bitter apple. xd Whiskey- Hope your puppers is okay. Keep us updated on what happens at the vets.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:03 am
She still has an hour or so, before they decided on surgery...
I have never had any luck wit bitter apple. I've used it on ferrets, cats and dogs, and it never detered them if they wanted it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:13 pm
Is your dog spayed? I know this sounds weird but maybe she's PMSing. I know some animals get really agressive and nervous when they're in heat or just before or just after. If she's 3, then she's like a 20-year old college girl--she's sextually mature but she's still growing and changing horror-mone wize.
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