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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:58 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:51 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:20 am
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:07 pm
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Some people need to grow a pair, and some thicker skin.
It's a Gym class. If he wasn't saying directly to you, then he was saying it to the class as a whole, and the intensity of the word is degraded exponentially. Gym teachers are supposed to be hard-asses. They're supposed to be mean. Quite oft, they coach a sport, so all they know is physical and mental attacks, and barraging of their pupils. Taking it personally like you is taking it to the next level. If you got that kicked, I'm certain that you would become "that kid" and would be insulted, heckled, picked on, and made fun of even more. So, unless you want to be the center of attention in the entire school, and be ridiculed, you should really not take it so offensively.
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:56 am
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Jonathon Fett Some people need to grow a pair, and some thicker skin. It's a Gym class. If he wasn't saying directly to you, then he was saying it to the class as a whole, and the intensity of the word is degraded exponentially. Gym teachers are supposed to be hard-asses. They're supposed to be mean. Quite oft, they coach a sport, so all they know is physical and mental attacks, and barraging of their pupils. Taking it personally like you is taking it to the next level. If you got that kicked, I'm certain that you would become "that kid" and would be insulted, heckled, picked on, and made fun of even more. So, unless you want to be the center of attention in the entire school, and be ridiculed, you should really not take it so offensively. For some, it's not just a matter of "growing a pair". The 'F word' can be a trigger word for victims of hate crimes, especially when a gym teacher yells it out recklessly to the whole class. I have a friend who has the 'F word' carved into her thigh; I can't even imagine what it would be like to hear that word after being attacked like that.
On another note, gym teachers and coaches don't have to be degrading to be effective. All of the gym teachers and coaches I've had in my entire life have been supportive and really effective at their job.
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:56 pm
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Atrum_Anima Jonathon Fett Some people need to grow a pair, and some thicker skin. It's a Gym class. If he wasn't saying directly to you, then he was saying it to the class as a whole, and the intensity of the word is degraded exponentially. Gym teachers are supposed to be hard-asses. They're supposed to be mean. Quite oft, they coach a sport, so all they know is physical and mental attacks, and barraging of their pupils. Taking it personally like you is taking it to the next level. If you got that kicked, I'm certain that you would become "that kid" and would be insulted, heckled, picked on, and made fun of even more. So, unless you want to be the center of attention in the entire school, and be ridiculed, you should really not take it so offensively. For some, it's not just a matter of "growing a pair". The 'F word' can be a trigger word for victims of hate crimes, especially when a gym teacher yells it out recklessly to the whole class. I have a friend who has the 'F word' carved into her thigh; I can't even imagine what it would be like to hear that word after being attacked like that. On another note, gym teachers and coaches don't have to be degrading to be effective. All of the gym teachers and coaches I've had in my entire life have been supportive and really effective at their job.
When I had coaches or teacehrs that chose to be harsh and evil people, they were honestly the ones that were the worst. It doesn't ever usually help. It just makes the people under the authority figure angry and standoffish, and less likely to do as you say. At least, in my experience.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:55 pm
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I'm not going to bother quoting Jon, because I doubt he cares about this topic anymore. But I feel like my opinions on this matter were not adequately addressed by the others in the thread. I apologize in advance if I upset anyone, and I would love to hear everyone else's ideas on this.
While I agree that he shouldn't be taking it personally, how he viewed it is how he viewed it, and if he was offended then he has the right to ask it to stop, especially if it's from a teacher. But I disagree; he's not trying to take it too far. He feels like he is being singled out, whether intentional or not, but he is not taking extreme measures or expecting exaggerated punishments to the teacher. He is simply trying to get him to not say that again because he does not want to feel hurt or singled out again. To illustrate my point, let's re-enact this situation under different circumstances.
There's a guy who is of African-American descent, but it isn't visible. To his knowledge, he is the only of his kind in his class. His teacher calls into the locker room one day, "hurry up and get dressed, you niggers!" He is targeting a specific group and is at fault, even if he believes they are not represented in his class. By using it as an insult, he is suggesting it is something to mock and devalues that specific group.
There's a guy with mental disabilities in his class, but nobody can really tell. To the best of his knowledge, he is the only one in his class. One day, his teacher calls into the locker room, "hurry up and get dressed, you retards!" He is targeting a specific group and is at fault, even if he believes they are not represented in his class. By using it as an insult, he is suggesting it is something to mock and devalues that specific group.
What I'm saying is that just because there are less people standing up for homosexuals than there are for people of African descent or mental disabilities doesn't mean it's okay to insult them. And this will get back to him; by encouraging the belief that being gay is below being straight, he is never allowed to be openly gay in his school. If he does, he faces ridicule and hate that, though not initiated by that teacher, was still reinforced by that teacher.
Furthermore, if the teacher feels the need to call him out on being offended by what he said (thereby letting other kids target him and making him known as "that guy"), then he was intentionally trying to insult and degrade that specific group. This would justify OP's "overreaction" of taking it personally. And, if that is the case, then he would most likely loose his job for promoting hate on a specific group. In my opinion, which group is being targeted is pretty much immaterial.
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