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Gabrielle_AnimalLuver
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:23 am


I haven't felt this depressed in a good long while. Not since my first heartbreak I'd even say. And I can't talk to my friend right now. My problems are stupid to them. I know the guild is pretty dead lately and chances are no one will respond to this. But at least I can vent a little.

As yall probably know. I'm 24 in, 9 days. And I still live at home. I've been in college for the better part of a decade, I have almost no money saved at all.

My schedule was pretty sweet, and I was feeling pretty good about life. I worked the store 4 days a week, 2 days off IN A ROW and the clinic on saturday. Then, like an idiot, I decided to try working at another clinic. I quit my saturday job, which was the people letting me use the underwater treadmill for free. I start at the new clinic tomorrow and my schedule is all kinds of ******** up. Every single week it's different and now instead of just saturdays, I do 3 days a week, always different days, which makes it incredibly hard for my boss at the store to work around. I now have, maybe 1 day off each week.

This is not what's really got me upset, I'm just painting a picture here.

I'd also like to state, that the $800 vet bill I just finished paying off, my parents had offered to pay, and I turned down their offer knowing there would be consequences of accepting their money, as they already act like they own me.

So I live at home, work two jobs, have not even the faintest social life. I pay for all the pets food, medical bills etc etc, that is my contribution to the house. All I have EVER asked of my parents, is that they stay out of my room. Yet every day my mother goes in my room, goes through my cupboard, takes my laundry, goes through my drawers when she puts it away. And when I ask her why she insists on making me miserable, why it is so impossible to honor my ONE wish. For the past 4-5yrs, every day, she says she's jusr "trying to help" after hundreds of screaming matches, of which I made her well aware how much it bothers me, she still claims she's just being helpful.

I tried ignoring it, bottling up the anger and just not saying anything. However yesterday I had what I imagine was a true mental breakdown. She'd come into my room, taken all the rat towels that were in bags in my cupboard, washed them, put them all away in my drawers, and gone through my bags and taken tuperwear out of my bags. I started to cry, and then I felt like this was not sufficient to release the anger and frustration that had built up. So I punched my wall, and fell to the ground in agony, and started laughing, at how STUPID this whole thing is. And when I saw my hand was bleeding, I just couldn't stop laughing.

I was so anxious to get out of the house this morning, I accidentaly got to work an hour early. Not that that in itself bothers me much, but I actually somehow convinced myself I start at 10 on sunday, and so I thought I didn't have time to walk Cowboy and now I feel really aweful, the one thing in life that gives me some sort of sanity and I completely skipped it today for NO REASON. I been sitting at the store alone for the past hour, feeling like the biggest ******** up in the world.

I'm sure if you actually read this, you also think it's incredibly stupid, and it is. But I just really think it is such a small request and the only thing I have ever asked for. She stays out of my brother's room because her fat a** is too lazy to go downstairs. But she is so controlling and OCD that for 5yrs, no matter how politely I ask, no matter how I beg, no matter that she knows how it drives me insane when she does it. She can't not stay out of my room. Even if she knocks and comess in to ask me something, she can't get one sentence out without picking stuff off my desk or trying to rearrange things in my room.

I can't stay in this house another minute, I feel like my choices are kill myself, or move out. And since I can't afford to move out right now, I dunno where that leaves me.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:52 am


Gabrielle_AnimalLuver


Aww, sadness : (

I really don't have anything helpful to say advice wise, 'cause I had problems with my mom, too. I live with my dad now ( I'm 14 lol ) and I don't get in fights with her anymore. I hope things get better for ya~

Purple Hyena


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:06 pm


That's so sad, i also hope things get better for you. Just remember that no matter what, your mom loves you and i bet she really is trying to help. Ya know parents, always gettin' into your things. I learn to live with it. Anyways, good luck. Just breathe and be calm. Things are going to get better. wink biggrin heart sweatdrop whee confused
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:22 pm


Gabs, if it makes you feel any better I'm going to be 30 in october, and I live at home, no money saved, hell I don't even have a car. I pay all the animal expenses except food because I refuse to buy the crap they want to feed the dogs [Oh and the poodle's bill, I don't pay her shiz either cause I love her but I'm so not fond of her.] I work two jobs, live at home AND Pay rent to my parents for the joys of my mother going through my shiz on a nearly daily basis...

Akiska


Whiskey On A Sunday

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:32 pm


Gabby, You should pack up Cowboy and Rascal and come be my roommate down here in florida.


It sucks, I am going through a similar thing but with my grandmother. I'm sorry. emotion_hug
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:24 pm


Or both of you pack up and we'll meet somewhere in the middle and get our own house. [I feel the world ending from the awesome as I type this...]

Akiska


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:38 am


Obviously punching the wall doesn't do anyone any good, especially when it comes down to hurting yourself. Believe me, I know. I've dealt with extreme frustration several times, and a couple of times have kicked stationary items in the process. After breaking a couple of toes gonk I learned not to do that anymore.

Instead of the wall, take your frustrations out on a pillow or a punching bag. Put your anger to work for you, such as digging and/or weeding in the garden, or some other physically draining chore. Or better yet, bake some bread. Baking [yeast] bread from scratch is great for venting when you punch down the dough ... and the rewards of baking home-made bread are incredibly wonderful, especially when you put butter on that first slice that's still warm! heart

Sounds like you really need to sit down and have a heart to heart talk with your mom ... and involve other family members too, if at all possible, for backing you up. You need to make her understand that you need to have your personal space. Tell her that you do not want her in your room, unless you've invited her in. Tell her you are not a kid anymore and can handle doing your own laundry, keeping your own room picked up, etc.

Can you lock your door? Can you hang a sign on your door? Either or both of these might help remind her that she needs to back off and respect your simple wishes for her to keep out of your room.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:27 am


I had a real heart to hear with her once. And she actually listened and promised to stop. And she did, for a whole week. evil

I've asked for a lock for my bedroom door for the past two years as a birthday or christmas gift. They just ignore it.

The reason I resorted to punching the wall is because the pillow was not doing it for me. I needed to feel something. Like I was making some kind of damage, even if it was to myself. Sort of like how I ask and beg for years on end for her to cut it out and NOTHING ever changes, punching soft things was doing nothing. Punching wall did SOMETHING. Physical pain= better than emotional pain. Endorphins and what not. And ya, chores may be good but, seeing her face makes me upset all over agian so I was attempting to stay in my room where yea if I barricade my door I can almost get some privacy.

The main bathroom is connected to my room. I can lock that, but my bedroom door, nope. So now I've come up with a device...or rather, a rope tied to my coat rack, that will hold the handle up so anyone trying to open my door can't get in. However you can still pull the handle upwards to get in, which my theory is that no one will think to do. This way I can lock the door when I'm gone (which is when she usually goes to town and spends half a day going through my s**t) and still get back in. Incredibly childish, yes, but treat me the way you want me to act.

Meanwhile I'm looking at places to live. For those of you living on your own, I'd love to know what percentage of your monthly income is mortgage/rent. I've found some places that may be affordable. The mortgage is basically half what I make in a month, which I should hope leaves me enough for gas, groceries etc. The only problem is when I go back to school in the fall for my last year there is no chance I could keep that up. So it may require dropping out.

Also I heard back from my new boss. She says she's sorry that the schedule was not "clear" but it does rotate. But if I give her my availability she will try to work around it. I'd already told her that Sunday-Monday are the days I'm needed most at the store and I work I think every second sunday and I work this monday. So, I'm feeling like I've made a horrible mistake. Your schedule is your life, I mean literally, and this is just aweful. I will try to talk to my boss at the store and work out 2-3 days in which I'll tell the clinic, DONT schedule me these days. But still, I really had it good at my old clinic and I can't believe I quit, if I'd known about the rotating schedule I woulda said forget it.

Gabrielle_AnimalLuver
Crew


Shearaha

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:07 pm


I've been there too. Moving out was one of the best things I could have done for myself. But along the way it got hard, I thought that I was going to have to drop out of school and move back home in shame. I lost one of my cats because I couldn't afford his medical care and no one would loan me the $50 dollars it would have taken to keep him. I had to feed a lower quality food to my cat and bird, and I existed on ramen noodles, once a day, there were days I just didn't eat.

The best advice I can give is look into any and every assistance program to see if you qualify. You may have to bite the bullet and decrease the quality of food you feed you pets and yourself. You'll also want to consider (and I really recommend) forgoing TV and internet. Put yourself and your critters on an austerity program, especially during school and you can do it. Walk or bike as many places as you can to conserve your gas.

You could also just buy a lock and instal it yourself ninja
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:18 pm


Double post, but...
I'm 28, married and we live in one room of my MILs house. One 12x28ft room houses all of our stuff, our cats, our bird, our dog and us. We're allowed to use the kitchen and our bathroom is down the hall, but that's it. We have no say in what happens in the rest of the house, and since the door to our room can not have a lock installed due to the type of door, MIL comes in and rummages through our stuff every time we're both gone. For us it's the price we pay for somewhere to live since our old place caught fire.

Shearaha

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:40 am


it will be ok. plenty of people you rage still live at home. i would be if i didnt get married, im not live on my own material at all. im one of the only people i know around my age that has moved out. most of my friends are still with their parents and im about the same age as you
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:32 am


I'm going to be honest. I think you're going a little overboard in your reaction to your mother's behaviour. I understand it can be frustrating, but if you have nothing to hide, don't let her snooping bother you. You're working yourself up over something pretty trivial. She is your mother, and it is her house. I used to have similar issues with my mom and as I grew older realized how childish I was being. Luckily, after I moved away we turned out to be best friends. What it sounds like you need is personal space and distance.

However, I don't think your reaction is a result of just your mom's behaviour; you've posted other times about your situation in other parts of your life, and I think it finally all just culminated into one big breakdown. You are stressed - very stressed - and it's obvious. You have school, a very demanding clinic, difficult co-workers, a second job, managing a Facebook page for a business, dealing with Cowboy's medical issues combined with agility, taking very good care of your dog, rats, and fish(?). You are only one woman, and right now you're spreading yourself out too thin. You need to find a way to either eliminate one or more stressors from your life or find a way to manage them, either by exercise, meditation, breathing, etc. Therapy, if it's an option, also seems like a fantastic idea. You can solve a lot of problems just by talking to someone willing to listen.

Depending on what bills you have (this includes utilities, credit cards, loans, car payments, school loans, gas, etc), determines how much your rent should be, but a general rule of thumb is that it should be less than 50% of your income; it should ideally around a third of your gross income. You can get by with rent making up as much as 50%, but I can almost guarantee your shoestring budget from that will be another stressor added to your life.

I'm not sure how Canada works with student loans. Are you able to apply to the government or bank for a loan to attend school? Loans will cover your tuition, books, and housing. Have you applied for any scholarships or grants to help out with costs? I did this for a majority of my bachelor's degree and lived comfortably on my own. The biggest help was living with one or more people as roommates, which obviously reduces costs considerably, so look into that.

Sorry for the long post. You're a good person, and you seem like someone who puts others' needs before your own. Well, you're the only person living for you, so make sure you're OK before taking care of someone else. Good luck to you, Gabby, we all know eventually you'll pull through and become stronger because of it. We're rooting for you!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:11 pm


If your mom refuses to stop it, then why not work with her? Tell her where you want things to go if she insists on cleaning your room. Put labels here and there, where you want the rat towels to go, etc.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:28 pm


Ailinea
I'm going to be honest. I think you're going a little overboard in your reaction to your mother's behaviour. I understand it can be frustrating, but if you have nothing to hide, don't let her snooping bother you. You're working yourself up over something pretty trivial. She is your mother, and it is her house. I used to have similar issues with my mom and as I grew older realized how childish I was being. Luckily, after I moved away we turned out to be best friends. What it sounds like you need is personal space and distance.

However, I don't think your reaction is a result of just your mom's behaviour; you've posted other times about your situation in other parts of your life, and I think it finally all just culminated into one big breakdown. You are stressed - very stressed - and it's obvious. You have school, a very demanding clinic, difficult co-workers, a second job, managing a Facebook page for a business, dealing with Cowboy's medical issues combined with agility, taking very good care of your dog, rats, and fish(?). You are only one woman, and right now you're spreading yourself out too thin. You need to find a way to either eliminate one or more stressors from your life or find a way to manage them, either by exercise, meditation, breathing, etc. Therapy, if it's an option, also seems like a fantastic idea. You can solve a lot of problems just by talking to someone willing to listen.

Depending on what bills you have (this includes utilities, credit cards, loans, car payments, school loans, gas, etc), determines how much your rent should be, but a general rule of thumb is that it should be less than 50% of your income; it should ideally around a third of your gross income. You can get by with rent making up as much as 50%, but I can almost guarantee your shoestring budget from that will be another stressor added to your life.

I'm not sure how Canada works with student loans. Are you able to apply to the government or bank for a loan to attend school? Loans will cover your tuition, books, and housing. Have you applied for any scholarships or grants to help out with costs? I did this for a majority of my bachelor's degree and lived comfortably on my own. The biggest help was living with one or more people as roommates, which obviously reduces costs considerably, so look into that.

Sorry for the long post. You're a good person, and you seem like someone who puts others' needs before your own. Well, you're the only person living for you, so make sure you're OK before taking care of someone else. Good luck to you, Gabby, we all know eventually you'll pull through and become stronger because of it. We're rooting for you!


Yup, I know exactly how it sounds, to be fair it's difficult to explain how horrid she is. She'll flat out lie about it most of the time. "I wasn't in your room" "Really? wow, my shoes magically put themselves in my cupboard"

Or "I HAD to pick your clothes up off your floor, I was vaccuming" "Cause obviously I'm not capable of vaccuming my own room, and I fail to see why you needed to fold each item and put them in my cupboard BECAUSE you were vaccuming" Or my very favorite, when she took my neoprene wetsuit (which should be hung not folded to maintain it's form) and my LINGERIE and folded them and put them in my drawers because SHE decided, I needed to have more hangers available.

There is nothing in the world that stressed me more than this woman. I would be happier working THREE jobs, never having a day off, if it meant never seeing her again. I could have a wonderful day, and I come home, and she's obviously been through my room, moving stuff around, taking stuff etc, and I just feel like crying. It's her obssession to control every aspect of my life and her refusal to honor my very simple request quite simply. More than it is about her finding something I've hidden. (I don't hide anything, fact I like to leave gifts UNHIDDEN because she SHOULDNT be snooping.)

The problem with loans and burseries etc is that I have to NOT be living with my parents to get one. Which would mean taking a giant leap of faith, moving out, and hoping to get accepted. And even then, even living ON MY OWN, and not having anything to do with them, because they are my parents, and make more than a certain amount per year, the chances of me getting accepted to anything are slim to none.

SO it's mostly become about surviving my last year with them while preparing myself and looking for a place to live now. So that once school is done, and once my pay is constant and sufficient I can get out of here.

I use to wonder why I only saw my half brother once a year, how he could never call his own parents. But as I"VE grown older, I've come to realize, once you can physically get away from this family, you NEVER come back.

Gabrielle_AnimalLuver
Crew


Akiska

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:51 pm


I honestly don't know what you can do, if talking to her doesn't work then... *shrug* I sat down with my mom and told her flat out, the way she acted was why I jumped so quickly into the whole Utah thing, and ended up in the situation I did attempting to escape from her controlling, and emotional abuse. After that she calmed down a bit, but still, It's difficult to handle.

Perhaps getting something like... The top part here with a combination lock or master lock would help to ease your peice of mind. My sister had one on her door to keep my brother out when she left the house.

Or maybe if you sit down and talk to her again, make it less about your stuff, and more about the safety of the house hold pets? What if one of the rats managed to escape the cage [Aida has proven she can at least once] and Rascal got in there? Or even Cowboy? Rats are vicious fighters, and it could result in very serious injury to both of the animals involved.
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