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 Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:47 pm
why do people tell others to go to college, that it'll open more paths?
i have yet to see anything to interest me at college, and all i see is it leaving deep holes in young adult's pockets, holes that they can't afford and shouldn't have
that, and i'm merely sliding through the rest of my senior year at high school as it is. school bores me
i don't see why having a piece of paper should suddenly change things :/
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:44 pm
It does help in some cases, (Medical, law and psychologist). Where you're basically guaranteed to pay off that debt with how high your jobs pay.
I ended up working immediately after and switched job to job for a long while. I knew my finances were not steady thus I never bothered with schooling. It lead me to the career I have now and it worked for the best.
My friends mostly stayed in college studying art skills (Which I really do NOT advise taking if you don't have the money or an idea of where to search for work as this is a VERY competitive field) and are still looking for steady work.
I think you have the right idea by not going at this time since you're still undecided. But if for some reason you want to learn a new skill that you can't learn elsewhere- GO. Go to school if you want to be a chemist, pharmacist, or something in a field that definitely needs study. Otherwise, explore life. See what suits you first. There's nothing wrong with taking time off from school for work or just travelling.
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:05 pm
For the most part, it does open more paths.
I'm sure *something* must interest you. There are sooo many options out there. It just takes a little exploration. I've changed majors a ridiculous amount of times before I finally settled on something. And that's okay. Part of college is about self discovery and self creation.
A four year college may not be for you. Have you considered trade schools? They're more focused on your chosen field verse a four year university with general education requirements (that often have nothing to do with your major).
As for paying for it, don't let that stop you. First off, FAFSA. It's free federal money that has paid for the last few semesters for me. You can get up to $5,000 a year if you're parents don't make that much money. There are also tons of other scholarships and grant money out there. Don't discount student loans either. You get them at a fixed low rate (like 1-3%) and you don't have to pay them back until xx months after you graduate college. They are not the devil that people make them out to be.
Whether or not you think that having a degree shouldn't change things, it does. It makes a huge difference. It shows your future employer that you are dedicated and that you have a lot of skills (the ability organize and prioritize, time management, the ability to follow directions, critically think, etc.)
Working in a low skill job (fast food, retail, etc.) is a dead end job, to be frank.
There was an article in the paper recently about so many people being on food stamps. Why? Because people cannot live on minimum wage anymore. And guess what those low skill jobs pay? Not enough to live off of.
It is totally worth it to go to college.
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:23 pm
Kitalpha Hart why do people tell others to go to college, that it'll open more paths? i have yet to see anything to interest me at college, and all i see is it leaving deep holes in young adult's pockets, holes that they can't afford and shouldn't have that, and i'm merely sliding through the rest of my senior year at high school as it is. school bores me i don't see why having a piece of paper should suddenly change things :/ If you're mostly worried about the debt think about state schools or community college. They're way cheaper and you'll still get financial aid if you qualify. If you're worried about not liking it because you hate high school look into a school that has a lot of programs so you can try a bunch of things out that may fit your desires. I went to a private college for about a year and a half and I really didn't like it. It was a really great school but there was so much pressure because all my scholarships were riding on me getting A's and B's. I withdrew from there and transferred to the community college close to where I live and I LOVE it. It has exactly the program that I want I and only have to go for 2 years. If I want to get a better degree I can but I know I can get the job I want with my AS. If even that doesn't appeal to you take one or two classes at a time at your local community college. It's going to be a lot different than high school, a lot cheaper than a big university, and you can pick classes you'll really like. College is a good idea but you don't have to go right after high school and you shouldn't feel pressured to do something you don't want to. Hope that helps!
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:02 pm
I agree with the girls here.
State college is much cheaper, but you still get an education.
Surely, nothing can't just not draw your interest.
I don't recommend the art field, but perhaps you should try medicine, like being a pharmacist.
The pays pretty good, so by the time you pay off that bit of debt, you'll be making lots of money and will have time to study in whatever field does interest you.
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:46 pm
Audacious Audino I agree with the girls here.
State college is much cheaper, but you still get an education.
Surely, nothing can't just not draw your interest.
I don't recommend the art field, but perhaps you should try medicine, like being a pharmacist.
The pays pretty good, so by the time you pay off that bit of debt, you'll be making lots of money and will have time to study in whatever field does interest you. medicine? um, EW.
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:48 pm
caaaaaath Kitalpha Hart why do people tell others to go to college, that it'll open more paths? i have yet to see anything to interest me at college, and all i see is it leaving deep holes in young adult's pockets, holes that they can't afford and shouldn't have that, and i'm merely sliding through the rest of my senior year at high school as it is. school bores me i don't see why having a piece of paper should suddenly change things :/ If you're mostly worried about the debt think about state schools or community college. They're way cheaper and you'll still get financial aid if you qualify. If you're worried about not liking it because you hate high school look into a school that has a lot of programs so you can try a bunch of things out that may fit your desires. I went to a private college for about a year and a half and I really didn't like it. It was a really great school but there was so much pressure because all my scholarships were riding on me getting A's and B's. I withdrew from there and transferred to the community college close to where I live and I LOVE it. It has exactly the program that I want I and only have to go for 2 years. If I want to get a better degree I can but I know I can get the job I want with my AS. If even that doesn't appeal to you take one or two classes at a time at your local community college. It's going to be a lot different than high school, a lot cheaper than a big university, and you can pick classes you'll really like. College is a good idea but you don't have to go right after high school and you shouldn't feel pressured to do something you don't want to. Hope that helps! i took ASL at the local community college for my foreign language instead of French or Spanish at school kinda meh about community colleges
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:02 pm
Hey I get it. If you don't wanna go to college don't make anyone force you. You can always choose to go to college later. wink
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:10 pm
caaaaaath Hey I get it. If you don't wanna go to college don't make anyone force you. You can always choose to go to college later. wink that, and at said local community college, politics galore. i really don't wanna go back .___________.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:03 pm
Kitalpha Hart Audacious Audino I agree with the girls here.
State college is much cheaper, but you still get an education.
Surely, nothing can't just not draw your interest.
I don't recommend the art field, but perhaps you should try medicine, like being a pharmacist.
The pays pretty good, so by the time you pay off that bit of debt, you'll be making lots of money and will have time to study in whatever field does interest you. medicine? um, EW. i.e. You could do anything else.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:15 pm
I just ripped off. I'm thinking about law school since a BA in Political Science and Sociology, both as majors, doesn't guarantee a simple office job.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:55 pm
 
Well, it really is up to a person how he/she sees things. I don't know about your culture there, but college here in our country literally opens up a whole new world for a student since both grade school and high school are somewhat a controlled environment here. We get to see the real side of life outside the classrooms, and we get to be independent for the first time in our lives.
If you think that you're not good with going to college, then don't force yourself. There's a big chance that you'll just hate the whole experience. But I guess you could try it out first, there's no harm in trying things out.
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:53 am
Kitalpha Hart caaaaaath Hey I get it. If you don't wanna go to college don't make anyone force you. You can always choose to go to college later. wink that, and at said local community college, politics galore. i really don't wanna go back .___________. Could it just have been that community college? I haven't had to deal with much politics at mine~ Having a college education does help you I think. It might not be like this for all career paths, but I know for my dad (he designed like parts for things..mechanical/etc) not having a full college education held him back in pay/position at work. Like I think his boss even said at one point he did a really great job with his work, and she wished she could pay him more or promote him or something, but there was something brought up about how only having part of a college education held him back from getting a promotion/etc. (I don't remember exactly what he said since it was years ago, but I remember he stressed on my siblings and I that we should get a college education and that it was important. My mom says the same thing) (&I don't believe it's right for jobs to do this btw, but I think it can happen) Also, if you're not sure what you want to do, you could try a "counseling" course. That's what it's called at my school at least. It might be called something else at other schools. But it was the first class I took at community college, and it really helped me choose a career based off my personality, interests,etc..and it wasn't something I had thought of on my own, so I'm glad I took the class.
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:45 pm
Having a college education can help for a variety of reasons. For starters, lot of specialized jobs require a degree, and a lot of jobs that don't require a degree won't promote you past a certain level without a degree. I don't always agree that that's the way it should be- obviously, a doctor needs higher education but my aunt has worked at an insurance company for 10 years and had to get a college degree recently- she didn't really need it for her job, she just wanted to get promoted. In that case, it wasn't really all that helpful.
But even without a degree, going to college can help you get connections with people who can help you get jobs. My college has job fairs all the time- you have to be a student to go, and they help students get jobs for the summer. But after having a summer job, many of my friends have been offered full-time positions.
School is rarely going to be free, but there's a good chance it can be affordable. It's not necessarily about getting a "piece of paper" but doing something that can benefit you in the future. It's also a good chance to start living away from your parents, without completely entering the adult world.
But really, there's no point in going if you're just going to have a shitty attitude about it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:00 pm
I remember GCC, and I did not like the politics there. We talked about this already, outside Gaia.
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