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What do you think about earning stats for baskets? |
I would like to see this option. |
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I think the stats system is fine without adding this. |
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I have another idea to add to this (post in thread, please!) |
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:12 pm
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Please see the edit at the bottom of this post.
Okay, so this is something that I've looked for in the past, and thought I would bring up.
I would like to see us have the ability to roll and earn stats for baskets. If baskets are dropped at the end of the month, then their owners would have the ability to earn stats for that month, as well as the next months, up until the basket pops; it would also give the owner the opportunity to take advantage of a long wait time if a colorist cannot grow a basket for some reason.
Roleplaying a basket is simple enough - the parents can talk to the baby inside and the basket can wiggle around as it gets closer to the time for it to emerge. Interactions like this happen in the shop thread and in guild RPs all the time. The logistics are hopefully simple; because it's pitch dark in the basket and nobody knows what the baby looks like, the roleplayers could mostly stick to thoughts, emotions, and sensations as the foal learns more of its parents' language and develops its relationship with its parents.
To make this a bit simpler, here are a few suggestions I've thought up to hopefully solve a few questions that could come up: In the case of a basket without a cert, proof of ownership (like a cert request by the owners of the parents) could be provided in the RP thread and when stat rolling. Basket roleplays could be backlogged until the time the foals have emerged and can be posted officially. [As far as I am aware, basket roleplay cannot get you stats, period.] Because the stats system has changed to allow owners to claim their soquilis' stats, baskets stats could be claimed in the exact same way, provided there is proof of ownership (through a cert or cert request). Basket roleplays could have their own relatively brief set of rules that detail the limit of a foal's perception from inside the basket. Adding baskets to a teepee could be done with proof of ownership, and could be followed up by a change of image request later.
Please post your opinions on this idea! I'd love to see them, and it would be great to develop this idea further! Thanks guys!
Edit: After discussing this with you guys, I realized there was another, possibly better option here: rather than rolling stats for a basket and placing them in one's teepee, it might be better to be able to earn back stats (or regular stats) for a basket RP once the basket has grown to a foal or adult. This would function the same way back stats do at the moment, in my imagination: post in the stat log for basket stats with the RP, the soquili's name (once it has grown and been placed in one's teepee), and a link to one's teepee... It would just be an option, with this suggestion, to not only get stats for foal and adult roleplays, but for basket roleplays, as well. It would remove the inability to get stats for basket roleplays.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:48 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:57 pm
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Jackariah Beckett Not sure what I feel about this, but I do have a comment =B. I saw you mention that the parents might not know what the foal looks like. I know this is all up to the owners decision, but I think if the owners wanted depending on how they look at things, the parents would know? Since I think I have heard somewhere that the mare gives birth and then puts the foal in the basket for protection. In this case, the parents would get a view of the foal before putting it in the basket nwn. I only mention it because it might open up the basket rp a little more. My other thought is that if an rper brought smell into the rp, it would make it much easier to rp a basket. I.E, if the foal smelled something different and didn't immediately have the comfort of its parents voices, it would be easy to rp the basket feeling fear and wiggle around. When a soquili is born, they're born premature - premature enough that their coloring is not immediately evident and any physical features they might have are too underdeveloped to make out, I believe, which is why they're placed in the basket for protection. n.n It does eventually take on their coloring, though. <3 RP Guidebook post on the topic.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:03 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:22 pm
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one over three Honestly I don't really see a practical reason for allowing baskets to stat. The quality of RP resulting from this kind of situation would be really limited, and wouldn't allow the character much room to grow. If you want to explore this kind of environment in your own RPs then all the power to ya, but I don't feel it's something that should be encouraged by putting stats behind it.
Also putting a strict set of rules on how baskets can and can't be RPed means that basket RP needs to be strictly moderated. We've had lots of problems with skinwalkers in the past. Adding baskets doesn't seem like it would be a good idea.
And if I remember correctly there's no official canon on what the baskets even are per say. The RP guidebook is unfortunately a bit out of date. It's being worked on but it's a slow process.
Thank you for replying! 8D
Like I said, it is a "could" on the set of rules, not necessarily a must have or anything - it would go along with the "no super powers" rule, so like no omniscient baskets or baskets that can hear birdcalls a mile away or whatever, if that clarifies what I meant by a set of rules.
I disagree that it wouldn't give a character much room to grow. A foal could make great discoveries about themselves while in a basket, possibly taking with it into the world a fascination for things that it heard or felt while in its basket, like a liking for owl calls or the peaceful stillness of the night. It could take with it dislikes, as well, such as a fear of water if it was left in a puddle for a time.
Besides that, stats are currently given by word count, not by the quality or particular format of a roleplay.
As for the RP guidebook being out of date, I can't really speak to that, but hopefully one day we'll have an answer. XD
Thank you for you input, one over three!
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:37 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:42 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:35 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:18 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:44 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:51 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:38 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:58 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:44 am
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Okay, so - reading the responses, it sounds like a major issue here is getting a basket rolled for stats and then inserted into a teepee. Roleplaying a basket is something that is something that is possible - maybe as a reactive character, but some spend most of their lives doing significantly more reacting than acting.
That said, would it be possible to roleplay a basket with the intention of getting stats for it during whatever month, and then to get the stats backlogged once a foal or adult has had their stats rolled and been added to the teepee?
This would be the equivalent of just backlogging a roleplay from a previous month for stats, which is a possibility right now for foals and adults. The difference would be that it is a basket roleplay (say, if it were impossible to roleplay the foal because the owner does not have that form yet, or if an owner just wanted to roleplay a basket). Under current rules, a basket cannot get stats whatsoever from RP, as far as I can tell. If a basket RP was given back stats, instead of rolling stats as a basket and having them inserted into the owner's teepee, it would remove the need for constant and confusing updates, I hope.
Would being able to get back stats (or stats for a current month) for a basket RP be a better alternative to rolling stats and placing a basket in a teepee?
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