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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:45 pm
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word filter Lolicat von Doom word filter Great movie I saw it just now they psycho Are they? I would argue that no, they're not entirely. There's something very instinctive about their actions, or rather, their re-actions to the modern world. yea...ill give u an example, remember when they crashed the car in the rain? they laughed and stuff and taylor started laughin when the owner of the bar kicked his a** thats what i mean by psychos no fear and laugh at pain
I'm pretty sure those are normal psychological reactions within conditions of extreme stress... Also, the movie is meant to be more than voyeurism on the mentally ill, I'm pretty sure.
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:32 am
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Lolicat von Doom sankapoo RedWhiteBlack Lolicat von Doom RedWhiteBlack I thought it was alright. Not the most epic piece of film made in the 90s (that goes to Pulp Fiction), but a good film nonetheless. I'll back this up, although I'm not sure Pulp Fiction is my favourite '90s movie. I prefered the novel when it came to this film, as its uncompromising claustrophobia within the character's mind(s) really came to the fore, whereas the film felt a little too clear cut and unambiguous for me. I've never read the novel, but in my experience, it is difficult for any filmmaker to present ambiguity on the screen. Even if the film is slick, and incredibly well made, that doesn't excuse the fact that the revelation near the end of the film is totally obvious, and was from the very beginning. (Also, I distinguish "favorite" and "best" film of the 90s as two categories. I believe that "Pulp Fiction" was the best, while "American Beauty" is probably my favorite.) And see I honestly didn't care for Pulp Fiction all that much. I don't know why, there was just something about it that I found off putting. But American Beauty is a different story. That movie was absolutely mind blowing amazing! I adore Pulp Fiction for the amount of great scenes it has contributed to cinema history, and the non-linear story arcs, but it's by no means Tarantino's best.
Not Tarantino's best, you say? I hope you give that crown to Kill Bill if you're not giving it to Pulp Fiction.
Also, on the topic of Fight Club, I do agree that this is a film that is about more than, as you say, voyeurism on the mentally ill. The evidence of Tyler's psychological instability is just too little to make a substantial argument that they're insane. Maybe a little extreme, but far from insane. Because they laugh at pain, it could be suggested that they gain some sort of pleasure, and could have a sexual fetish for pain (much like Cronenberg's Crash [1996]). I'd feel much more confident arguing that pleasure from pain is more sexual than psychological.
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:35 am
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Lolicat von Doom word filter Lolicat von Doom word filter Great movie I saw it just now they psycho Are they? I would argue that no, they're not entirely. There's something very instinctive about their actions, or rather, their re-actions to the modern world. yea...ill give u an example, remember when they crashed the car in the rain? they laughed and stuff and taylor started laughin when the owner of the bar kicked his a** thats what i mean by psychos no fear and laugh at pain I'm pretty sure those are normal psychological reactions within conditions of extreme stress... Also, the movie is meant to be more than voyeurism on the mentally ill, I'm pretty sure. i was just saying... and they know mahyem is kinda psycho and they love it and keep doing it
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:39 am
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RedWhiteBlack Lolicat von Doom sankapoo RedWhiteBlack Lolicat von Doom RedWhiteBlack I thought it was alright. Not the most epic piece of film made in the 90s (that goes to Pulp Fiction), but a good film nonetheless. I'll back this up, although I'm not sure Pulp Fiction is my favourite '90s movie. I prefered the novel when it came to this film, as its uncompromising claustrophobia within the character's mind(s) really came to the fore, whereas the film felt a little too clear cut and unambiguous for me. I've never read the novel, but in my experience, it is difficult for any filmmaker to present ambiguity on the screen. Even if the film is slick, and incredibly well made, that doesn't excuse the fact that the revelation near the end of the film is totally obvious, and was from the very beginning. (Also, I distinguish "favorite" and "best" film of the 90s as two categories. I believe that "Pulp Fiction" was the best, while "American Beauty" is probably my favorite.) And see I honestly didn't care for Pulp Fiction all that much. I don't know why, there was just something about it that I found off putting. But American Beauty is a different story. That movie was absolutely mind blowing amazing! I adore Pulp Fiction for the amount of great scenes it has contributed to cinema history, and the non-linear story arcs, but it's by no means Tarantino's best. Not Tarantino's best, you say? I hope you give that crown to Kill Bill if you're not giving it to Pulp Fiction. Also, on the topic of Fight Club, I do agree that this is a film that is about more than, as you say, voyeurism on the mentally ill. The evidence of Tyler's psychological instability is just too little to make a substantial argument that they're insane. Maybe a little extreme, but far from insane. Because they laugh at pain, it could be suggested that they gain some sort of pleasure, and could have a sexual fetish for pain (much like Cronenberg's Crash [1996]). I'd feel much more confident arguing that pleasure from pain is more sexual than psychological.
Actually my personal favourite Tarantino is Jackie Brown because I adore old blaxploitation films, plus I felt the dialogue was better in it, and it didn't rely quite so much on explosive gun shots. Kill Bill I was ok, but the second was totally bogged down feeling.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:28 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:54 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:10 pm
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Lolicat von Doom Thunderous Skies What's great about Fight Club is that, by design, it can't be a disposable movie. You need to watch it at least twice; once without knowledge of the twist, and again after knowing the twist. Even then you won't have spotted all the clues.
I see new things every time I watch. That doesn't work if you have read the novel though. Really, it's not disposable because it is a good film, not because of the strength of the plot alone, but because of the script-writing, the cinematography...
Well by disposable I didn't mean that one would only ever watch it once anyway - of course it would hold its own based on script, cinematography and so forth. I just meant that it REQUIRES more than one viewing; one viewing only gives you half the movie.
(Of course, if you'd already read the novel there'd be no surprise to wait for. I haven't, unfortunately.)
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:01 am
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Thunderous Skies Lolicat von Doom Thunderous Skies What's great about Fight Club is that, by design, it can't be a disposable movie. You need to watch it at least twice; once without knowledge of the twist, and again after knowing the twist. Even then you won't have spotted all the clues.
I see new things every time I watch. That doesn't work if you have read the novel though. Really, it's not disposable because it is a good film, not because of the strength of the plot alone, but because of the script-writing, the cinematography... Well by disposable I didn't mean that one would only ever watch it once anyway - of course it would hold its own based on script, cinematography and so forth. I just meant that it REQUIRES more than one viewing; one viewing only gives you half the movie.
(Of course, if you'd already read the novel there'd be no surprise to wait for. I haven't, unfortunately.)
I highly recommend reading the novel, even if you have seen the film. I adore it, the writing is so energetic, frantic.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:47 am
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:45 am
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:48 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:29 am
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:02 pm
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