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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:30 pm
Wow. I don't see any problems with adopting from other countries. So what, ALL countries have problems, and every single country has children who need homes. It doesn't matter where you adopt a kid from. You are doing a good deed by giving them a home. People are adopting kids from all over, including the US.
Also, if someone is giving their child up for adoption, that means they don't want the kid. Do you want someone to have a kid when they don't want it? They wouldn't have any reason to take good enough care of it.
I don't mean to blatantly go against everything that people have to say, I'm just giving the other side of the story.
My opinion, adopt from wherever you want to, and don't let people be parents who don't want to be parents.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:52 pm
Well, in general, I just hate when people go "I'm going to adopt a child from China because IIIIII want to save a life!" like they're going to get an award or soemthing.
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:51 pm
Depends on the situation really. If you're adopting from another country you are saving that child from LOTS of heartache and turmoil.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:34 am
Kids need parents or at least someone who loves them, sometimes their real parents cant give them that and if someone from anywhere else can give the kid love then so be it. just because something happened to the parent or the parent cant take care of the kid(im not saying people who put their kid up for adoption are bad people)the child shouldnt have to no have anyone that cares for them.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:43 am
 Яɛικσ Ƭƨʋκαɢι ƨαʏƨ...
Well, a child needs someone who loves them, even if that person is halfway across the world. If you don't want to give your child to someone halfway across the world that would care for that child, then you aren't giving that child a chance for a good life. And I think that is wrong.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:07 pm
You people do realize though, the reason China has so many full adoption houses is because they are only allowed one child per couple(except in the special cases of twins and such). If that child is a girl they are more likely to 'let her loose' as to keep her. Even boys, so it depends. and guess what folks china is HUGE.
Adoption is a great thing for places like china, and frankly they need the help.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:28 pm
Shinu_Rei why make kids of your own when the world is already over-populated and there are so many kids without home already.. just pick one, from anywhere. neutral I'm not the best with debate, but I DO have a few things to point out. In this particular case, I would like to say that adopting a child is great, but it's nice to see another generation of yourself. Adopting another child isn't the same as having your own. Can't really explain it. Also, while I agree with putting up your child for adoption even with all your advantages and ability to care for it, I also slightly disagree. Sure, you may not want the kid, but it's yours and you should be obligated to take care of it. Just like when people get a divorce and the father has to pay child support. He may not want to take care of the kid, but he has to because it's his. As for adopting from other countries. I don't see much wrong with it, though, it might be a problem if the kid has to experience a change in lifestyle. Like, I don't see myself living in China any time soon, cause I know I wouldn't fit in.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:51 pm
The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see...
I know of a lot of people who have adopted from other countries to try and "save the children" and "get them out of that wretched place" but I think that before you bring more children over from other countries, you should look after the ones in ours.
I know people who have actually believed we have a shortage of babies here in Canada!
I think that before you go trying to save all the children in other countries, you should look after the ones in your own.
And personally (this is just my opinion, don't bash me) I don't like the idea of putting kids up for adoption. My father was put up for adoption and wasn't adopted until he was 2 and a half.
He was shipped around from foster home to foster home and was often left in a crib in their basement or a back bedroom. He was just left there. He wasn't allowed out to play or anything. A few of the homes he was in, he was beaten and another one would feed him by throwing a mini box of cereal in the crib for him once a day. They wouldn't even open it for him first, he'd have to tear it open with his teeth. He spent days at a time in his own s**t and would be smacked if he cried. When my grandparents adopted him, he screamed every time they tried to touch him, and he was always wanting to be in bed by 6, becoming completely silent. He'd just lay there if he wasn't tired.
He was in just under 20 homes that treated him like that and I know a few more people that were in similar situations. These things do happen in Canada and I have people telling me it doesn't happen and that we have a shortage of babies here just because we're more "fortunate" than those ones?!
C'mon people.
It costs more to live here than it does there. 5$ would get you farther in most of those countries than it would here. There are a lot of kids here that never get adopted. There's a lot of kids here that never have parents or happy homes, but as soon as a place like China is mentioned, it just doesn't seem to matter.
Anyway, my point is that I don't agree with adopting outside of your country. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but just that I don't agree with it.
Like I said before, that's just my opinion and I'm hoping you guys don't bash me for it....and knows what the mind cannot understand.
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:21 pm
I think it's fine. Sure, kids over here (and I'm in Canada, btw. So it's okayly similair.) are still without parents and families. But the FACILITIES for taking care of them are MUCH better than over there....there, they'll probably grow up having no money, sick, and without sources of food. Here, they can at least survive after they're old enough to be taking care of themselves. I think it's a good idea. Sure, somewhat eurocentric to believe we're saving them by taking them into our own culture, but truthfully guys, it's gonna save lives. And it's therefore worth it.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:23 pm
viper_353 I think it's fine. Sure, kids over here (and I'm in Canada, btw. So it's okayly similair.) are still without parents and families. But the FACILITIES for taking care of them are MUCH better than over there....there, they'll probably grow up having no money, sick, and without sources of food. Here, they can at least survive after they're old enough to be taking care of themselves. I think it's a good idea. Sure, somewhat eurocentric to believe we're saving them by taking them into our own culture, but truthfully guys, it's gonna save lives. And it's therefore worth it. The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see...
I'm not trying to be mean or attack you, but not all the facilities in Canada are good or even all that much better, a lot of people make the assumption that they are just because you're in Canada...
Especially if you're on a native reserve. They're fed only often enough that they don't starve to death and changed only when it's unbearable for the people taking care of them to stand. And then the kids often grow up to be crack addicts and alcoholics. They don't get a very good start because people look over there and seem to forget about the cases here. You grow up in an orphanage there, and you're bound to die. You grow up in one here, and you're bound to grow up to be a crack addict, or a criminal, and I'm not exaggerating, either. Not all places here have the funding and a lot of places are forgotten. A lot of them can't get the funding and there isn't enough room in the better places.
A lot of facilities in Canada are better, but the reserves are far worse. The native reserves are really horrible for orphaned kids. I mean, my stepfather was taken from his birth parents because it was a bad situation, and then he got stuck in the situation I mentioned above.
There are a lot of better facilities here, but we also have a lot that are far worse.
(I'm not being racist against natives, either, I am native, I'm just telling it like it is D: )...and knows what the mind cannot understand.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:54 pm
I think that while what people are doing, by adopting kids from other countries are good. There are so many kids in their OWN countries that need to get adopted as well and you're denying them that. And with your second, no, but if they can't be good parents.. that's a different story.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:30 pm
Arianna Silvertong You people do realize though, the reason China has so many full adoption houses is because they are only allowed one child per couple(except in the special cases of twins and such). If that child is a girl they are more likely to 'let her loose' as to keep her. Even boys, so it depends. and guess what folks china is HUGE.
Adoption is a great thing for places like china, and frankly they need the help. My mother always told me love was a bullshit emotion that only fools and dreamers believed in...  Well I never understood why if they're only allowed one child, they'd have more, in turn needing to put them up for adoption.
Same with places like Africa. It's against their culture to use birth control and yet they keep having sex and having these kids. At least most girls here (most, not all by any means) try by using birth control or condoms.
I mean, the chinese know about their one child rule and the african people know of all the trouble they have with children not having homes and whatnot...but they still keep having kids. There are people who say it's to take care of the parents, in case the other children die or just because they weren't careful.
No matter the reason we shouldn't be expected to take care of all these other children just because the people can't seem to use condoms.
Sorry, it was just a mini rant. If they want the problems to stop, they're going to have to learn how to keep the children at a minimum.
I'm not trying to piss off or offend anyone, but my mom and I had a conversation about this today and I needed to say something....so she told me to be the fool with a dream...
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:51 pm
Woahhhhh necro thread.
Jeezuz I musta been pissed at someone when I typed my main post. Go me.
Anywhom. Adopt within your country if you can, dont have babies if you can't afford your own rent, if you have the facilities just TRY having a kid for a while. It might grow on you.
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:43 pm
I see the point that a lot of you are making, but I respectfullly disagree.
Parenting birth children:
I understand where some of you come form when you say a parent able to raise a child should have to, but I highly disagree. I believe that if a parent KNOWS that they will not love the child the way is should be loved, or do not want a child raised in whatever environment there is, that she has every right to but that child up for adoption.
Abortion:
If a 13 year old girl is raped she should be forced to go through with the pregnancy and birth of the child, possibly threatening her life AND the childs?
If a woman's birth control fails and she gets pregnant when she and he husband KNOW they cannot handle the child on there low income budget, they should be made to keep the child and give it a life where it may not be as healthy as neccisary?
These are jsut some cinarios (sp?) that come to mind. I think that it is a woman's right to controll what gose on in her body and that she has a right to say that she want to give birth or not. NOONE should be forced to do something to there bodies that they don't want.
Adoption from other contries:
Yes, this country is full of children starving, going through the system again and again, children being abused. But so is every other country in the world. I believe that iwether you want to adopt domesticaly or internationaly, it should be your choise, and that it shouldn't matter where the child came form, as long as said child will be LOVED.
I miself DO plan on adopting, both internationally and locally. I want 8 kids. Yes, 8. I want to adopt children from birth, so that i may name them, but if I can save an olderchild, i will HAPPILY do so. I DO plan on adopting a child from China, and a child from Africa, and a child from Russia. I also want children from the USA. Hopefully at lease one childf rom where I grew up, in Maine. But any chld from anywhere will do. i will lvoe them all the sanme.
If I offended anyone, I am sorry, but I don't feel like debating. These are simply my opppinions on the matter. I am not trying to force them upon nayone, and I am not telling others they are wronge.
~end of rant~
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:26 pm
Denkou Soshiatae
Abortion:
If a 13 year old girl is raped she should be forced to go through with the pregnancy and birth of the child, possibly threatening her life AND the childs?
If a woman's birth control fails and she gets pregnant when she and he husband KNOW they cannot handle the child on there low income budget, they should be made to keep the child and give it a life where it may not be as healthy as neccisary?
These are jsut some scenarios that come to mind. I think that it is a woman's right to controll what gose on in her body and that she has a right to say that she want to give birth or not. NOONE should be forced to do something to there bodies that they don't want.
Abortion was not mentioned in the OP.
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