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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:54 am
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:09 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:12 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 pm
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Ah, I love these debates.
He had good intentions to begin with - only targeting criminals - but went about it the wrong way and was eventually driven mad by his own delusions of grandeur.
It isn't as simple as saying: he was right, or he was wrong because the complexities of the human mind and what they believe to be right and wrong cloud the matter with shades of grey until you cannot draw the line between black and white anymore.
After all, can anyone honestly say that if you were given the option to destroy every single criminal in the world, with just a pen and a piece of paper, you wouldn't think about it? Just for a second? And if you did think about it, would you be strong enough to stand by your decision, one way or another?
I say this because of a conversation I had with one of my friends - she asked what the series was about, and I gave her the basic summary. However, I didn't tell her that Light solely targets criminals to begin with, until she asked the question: "Why not just kill bad people/criminals?"
My friend is a Buddhist, which obviously means she doesn't believe in killing anything, yet her first thought was the same as Light's. Does that make her evil? No, because it is guaranteed that most people would have the same first thought. Does that make it right? No, because just because the idea works well on paper, doesn't mean it'll work when put into practice.
As the saying goes: "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." I don't believe Light was evil, but he was given a power that he should never have had: you could blame Ryuk, but again, Shinigami aren't evil. They kill without judgement or discrimination to survive, they are already God's yet do not need the acknowledgment or power Light begins to crave as the series progressed. The Death Note is an addiction - it entices those who own it to use it at least once, and as I asked above - would you really be able to say "no" to it? Would you be able to walk away from it?
He was, in so many ways, an "affluent child", believing he could do the right thing with what he had been given, and used his incredible mind to carry out his plan. However, it was his cleverness and logic that led to his downfall - he had always been acknowledged for his past achievements all his life - he'd always had girls swooning after him, impressive grades, many friends - why not also be known as a savior of humanity? The one who cleansed the world of evil and created a Utopia for all to be safe and live peacefully?
His desire to "save the world", coupled with his desire to be known for his deeds, warped him and created Kira. He saw L, the FBI, the NPD - even Lind L. Taylor - as a challenge; a game for him to win using his intelligence and the pawns that were placed in front of him - Misa, Rem, Ryuk, even Mikami and his own family. The moves were played out from either side, with the unnecessary loss of innocents - Raye, Naomi, Taylor - that Kira destroyed until eventually, neither of them truly won.
In many ways, he definitely wasn't right - he was a murderer who wanted power and fame. But, in many ways, his ideals weren't wrong either - he wanted a better world. The same can be argued for L - he fought for the system he believed was fair, what was Justice, but he wasn't anywhere close to being a saint - even he treaded the grey areas from time to time to do what needed to be done.
Neither was right, but neither was wrong: to put it simply, they were both human, and that in itself can be seen as both.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:46 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:03 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:34 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:36 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:40 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:05 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:19 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:03 am
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animangod Kira was right. Light was wrong. But since they are one and the same he was right and wrong. End of debate. That was stupid/
I have to disagree xP Kira had a good point, but not a good solution smile
We are the wildest animal of all the animals that the planet has, we can be whatever we want but, Kira didn't have what we call "The human heart", which envolves feelings and ethics... No one, in perfect sense, would make decisions like that...
Too many people in the world? Ok, let's kill them. People in Africa and India dying because they are hungry? Ok, no problem, they can just disapear. See? These conclusions are like Kira's, which are cold and cruel, which I must disagree. Ofc we have those problems, but we don't have a WISE solution yet.
It's a good discussion for philosophy, indeed.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:27 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:42 am
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