Prostitution

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Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!  

[faretheewell]

joe_is_my_hubby

Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.  

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joe_is_my_hubby

Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.  

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joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.

Please point out this example of which you speak.  

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joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.

Please point out this example of which you speak.

How about you read my first post.  

[RosesFallingLikeRain]

joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.

Please point out this example of which you speak.

How about you read my first post.

We did, bu you never back up your second post.

And no, just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can say it's 'wrong'.
For example - You dislike carrots. Carrots are not wrong. I am not in the wrong for eating a carrot.

Good debate post:
I do not like the idea of prostitution for these reasons. Yatta yatta yatta...

Bad:
Eeeewie! It's gross.
I don'tlike it, and because I don't like it, the eeeewie is wrong.  

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joe_is_my_hubby

faretheewell

joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.

Please point out this example of which you speak.

How about you read my first post.

You mean the STD thing? I did. That's not an example. It's a statement. As was the "There are many other ways of making money." (which was then backed up with a messy bit of circular logic that has no place here.)

They are both very open-ended, and do not support the argument that is being questioned here. I am specifically asking for you to back up your blunt statement that legalizing prostitution is "wrong." The possibility of contracting an STD makes it "dangerous," but you need to explain why it is "wrong."

Unless you are postulating that a person who gets an STD is automatically "wrong," in which case we have a totally different issue to discuss.

And the first thing you need to do is clarify what you mean by "wrong" in the first place.  

[Kaiyle Brightblade]

Matron Mord Sith

Kaiyle Brightblade

Okay, here's a con:

If we legalize prostitution we are sending the message that it is okay. Most people might agree with that. But would you want your (hypothetical) children to hear that message? How would you feel if your daughter wanted to be a prostitute, or your son hired an "escort"?

I'd be slightly disappointed if my son has to buy female attention. I just feel that's just slightly pathetic considering that our family has good genes therefore we are all very attractive. If you can't attract the attention of the opposite sex (or same) then you are not a true member of the family.

This is the negative aspect I meant. Prostitution takes the place of the search for a real mate. What if your son never wanted to date, but instead paid for sex on a regular basis? What if your daughter only went out with clients and never got the chance to find her soul mate? I know this is their choice. But is that what you would really want for them?  

[Kaiyle Brightblade]

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

Please elaborate on why you think it is wrong. Do you have a religious objection? Moral? Do you think it is wrong because women's bodies are sold like objects? Do you think there should never be sex without love? There are many reasons you could object to this, I know. Please try and tell us a little more of what you are thinking.  

[Matron Mord Sith]

joe_is_my_hubby

Matron Mord Sith

joe_is_my_hubby

All I am saying is that it is wrong.

no, no its not. You are really starting to come off as this sheltered up tight religious snob. I don't care what your god has to say. You have no right to say something is wrong just because you don't like it. Liberate your mind a bit and loosen up you prude.

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

No, you are just an up tight prude and you are making yourself look like a child. Now crawl back to the church where you came from and come back when you have a legit argument because I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.  

[Matron Mord Sith]

Kaiyle Brightblade

Matron Mord Sith

Kaiyle Brightblade

Okay, here's a con:

If we legalize prostitution we are sending the message that it is okay. Most people might agree with that. But would you want your (hypothetical) children to hear that message? How would you feel if your daughter wanted to be a prostitute, or your son hired an "escort"?

I'd be slightly disappointed if my son has to buy female attention. I just feel that's just slightly pathetic considering that our family has good genes therefore we are all very attractive. If you can't attract the attention of the opposite sex (or same) then you are not a true member of the family.

This is the negative aspect I meant. Prostitution takes the place of the search for a real mate. What if your son never wanted to date, but instead paid for sex on a regular basis? What if your daughter only went out with clients and never got the chance to find her soul mate? I know this is their choice. But is that what you would really want for them?

Seeing how my family has good genes, my son would be attractive. I'd rather him go out and seduce a woman rather than having to waste his money. Paying for attention is what an ugly man would do in my opinion. An attractive man can seduce a girl and dump her when hes through with her
Like I said, its her choice if she wants to be a whore. I have no say in what she wants to do with her life once shes an adult. Yes, I want is best for her but if sluting around is what makes her happy then more power to her.  

[broken_bleeding_angel]

Kaiyle Brightblade

Okay, here's a con:

If we legalize prostitution we are sending the message that it is okay. Most people might agree with that. But would you want your (hypothetical) children to hear that message? How would you feel if your daughter wanted to be a prostitute, or your son hired an "escort"?

Well teaching your children that sex is bad and you should never touch yourself/another person isn't going to be very productive either. You'll just make them feel awful about their bodies and become confused. Often they'll go out of their way to find out why it's so "wrong or bad", or they'll develop issues with people touching them which can also cause problems in the future.

Quite frankly it's still acceptable in today's society for a man to go out and sleep with a prostitute then it is for a female. Like it has been for hundreds of years. Right now your asking a bit of a sexist question. What if the daughter wanted to hire an escort and the son wanted to be a prostitute?

Either way though, I would explain the situation to my (hypothetical) children and let them know that it's a persons choice to do this. I would let them actually know the history of the profession and how it has progressed to this state in time where it had become legal. I would teach them to be respectful towards them instead of being an uptight prude and completely snub them.

Again to each their own.  

[broken_bleeding_angel]

joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

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joe_is_my_hubby

I have every right to say something is wrong if I don't like it. Just like you have a right to call me a "religious snob." Sorry I have morals and opinions JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Sure, you have morals and opinions. So find a way to back them up. This is a DEBATE thread. Don't just say that it's wrong. WHY is it wrong? Give concrete examples and definitions. Otherwise you're not stating an opinion, you're just whining.

I gave opinions and examples.

Please point out this example of which you speak.

How about you read my first post.

You mean this?

joe_is_my_hubby

I don't think that prostitution should be legal.

There are many other ways of making money (that are legal) that don't involve selling yourself, and or stripping for other people's enjoyment.

Also prostituion is a very dangerous way of making money, you can get an STD!

EXPLAIN WHY you don't think it should be legal other then, "There are other ways of making money. It's dangerous. You can get an STD."
We're all very aware of these reason already. Hence the solution to them on the first page.

Give us some examples of these jobs with good reasons as to why they are better.

Yes there is the possibility of contracting an STD/STI or HIV/AID's. But disease is not the only problem a prostitute has to face. There is sexual/physical abuse, rape, serial killers (example: 1. craigslist killer), getting caught by the police, being put in jail, getting stabbed, being robbed, being shot.
But if you look at all of the possibilities listed above you can see that any of this could happen to someone walking on the street. Here I'll even give you a scenario.

"This is John. John is a college student. He's a straight A's student with dashing good looks. He's loved by friends and family alike. One night while John was walking down the street to go back to his dorm, a person ran up and grabbed John and pulled him into the dark alley. They beat up John. They broke his nose, fractured a rib and left bruises everywhere. As if that was bad enough for poor John, the person had also raped him, then stabbed him and left for dead. The police found his body a few days later with no wallet or identification."

Unfortunately what happened to John here also happens to a lot of women/men. Whether they are a prostitute or not. The only problem is is that you have more sympathy for John then you ever would a prostitute. Why? Simply because society today does not see them as "worthy" of it. And what I mean by that is that society does not want to look at them as people because of their profession. It is considered "wrong" by many people. They have become people you loathe once you see them on the street.

So please, feel free to EXPLAIN to us WHY is it wrong again?  

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Broken has a very good point. The dangers of the profession are not exclusive to the profession.

To add to that, the idea that a job is dangerous does not make any other jobs illegal.

For example, working in the Fort Mac Murray oil sands is a very dangerous profession. People do get injured on the job, and there is the potential every day that someone could get killed. Yet this job is not illegal.

Working in a pipe yard is very dangerous. People have been killed doing this job. Yet it is still legal.

Carpentry, welding, steal workers, textile industry, mining, etc. All jobs where people have lost life, limb or health. All still legal. Hell, people have gotten themselves killed being University professors.

It is still somewhat more dangerous to be a prostitute than to do any of the above, however. Why? Because prostitution is currently illegal, so employment health and safety codes cannot be applied. Would the health and safety codes entirely eliminate the risk to the women involved? Well, no. No more than in the pipe yard in my hometown where there was a fatality a couple of years ago. Accidents happen. However, regulations would make it safer.

Legalized prostitution would also cause other employment laws to go into effect. Laws such as statutory holidays, working hours, working conditions, minimum wage restrictions, etc. All laws designed to keep employees from being exploited.

Again, the benefits of legalization outweigh the negative consequences.