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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:18 pm
Lexi_Claire there are some people who just arent sexually interested, in any way. Yep! cat_3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:21 pm
Belethiel Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire Wolf_Wordsmith I think you're perfectly right to be pissed off, as it perpetuates the idea that being gay is a behaviour people choose, what they need to realise is, its something you're born with as much as your race. I wouldn't have been able to keep quiet, and that fact that her opinions were lauded as correct and kindly ,sickens me. Religious people are swine which need to be culled (not literally) when it comes to their archaic view points, and this proves exactly why. omfg, ikr, they are so stubborn, and they arent open to anything new. Excuse me, I am theist (though not part of organised religion), and I am very open to new ideas. Don't assume anything about a mass number of people. do you mean athiest? No, theist is anyone who believes in a higher power. It could be anything, I don't appreciate labels for this sort of thing, I just don't have a real religious identity. Oh, I think I might be theist. The bible, as you can see, has been pissing me off lately.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:25 pm
Esiris Belethiel Oh yeah. Is that what they're asking people to do now? D: That's awful. That's what Catholic Bishops say at least. Sad. Just sad. Gay people aren't hurting anybody, how is homosexuality a sin? I'll never understand that viewpoint. The way I see it, if you're not hurting anybody or putting others at risk or living in a way that can damage you and your environment, I don't see why you can't do something. I just hope they come around. It'll take a while for people to get used to new ideas, but it'll happen eventually. I have this little saying that if people can change their views on the rotations of our solar system, they can change their views on more Earthly matters. The church does accept new ideas over time. Unfortunately, it takes a while. :/
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:27 pm
Belethiel Esiris Belethiel Oh yeah. Is that what they're asking people to do now? D: That's awful. That's what Catholic Bishops say at least. Sad. Just sad. Gay people aren't hurting anybody, how is homosexuality a sin? I'll never understand that viewpoint. The way I see it, if you're not hurting anybody or putting others at risk or living in a way that can damage you and your environment, I don't see why you can't do something. I just hope they come around. It'll take a while for people to get used to new ideas, but it'll happen eventually. I have this little saying that if people can change their views on the rotations of our solar system, they can change their views on more Earthly matters. The church does accept new ideas over time. Unfortunately, it takes a while. :/ speaking of hurting people, why are serial killers in prison allowed to marry? that just doesnt make sense at all. if they can, why cant we?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:35 pm
Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire omfg, ikr, they are so stubborn, and they arent open to anything new. Excuse me, I am theist (though not part of organised religion), and I am very open to new ideas. Don't assume anything about a mass number of people. do you mean athiest? No, theist is anyone who believes in a higher power. It could be anything, I don't appreciate labels for this sort of thing, I just don't have a real religious identity. Oh, I think I might be theist. The bible, as you can see, has been pissing me off lately. Yeah, the Bible was written by man trying to comprehend God and the universe. Some of it may have been correct in some way (a part of Genesis seems to describe something similar to the Big Bang), but most of it is just human storytelling and historical warping. I just think there must be some sort of intelligent order in our universe, looking at how mind-mindbogglingly complex it is. Our space is infinite, and beyond that infinity are other universes. I think something had to have made it. As religious texts are a human thing, they're full of human error and bias so I won't believe them, but they have nice philosophies. I just live and try be good to the world and myself.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:39 pm
Lexi_Claire Belethiel Esiris Belethiel Oh yeah. Is that what they're asking people to do now? D: That's awful. That's what Catholic Bishops say at least. Sad. Just sad. Gay people aren't hurting anybody, how is homosexuality a sin? I'll never understand that viewpoint. The way I see it, if you're not hurting anybody or putting others at risk or living in a way that can damage you and your environment, I don't see why you can't do something. I just hope they come around. It'll take a while for people to get used to new ideas, but it'll happen eventually. I have this little saying that if people can change their views on the rotations of our solar system, they can change their views on more Earthly matters. The church does accept new ideas over time. Unfortunately, it takes a while. :/ speaking of hurting people, why are serial killers in prison allowed to marry? that just doesnt make sense at all. if they can, why cant we? I know, right? How backwards is that?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:48 pm
Belethiel Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire omfg, ikr, they are so stubborn, and they arent open to anything new. Excuse me, I am theist (though not part of organised religion), and I am very open to new ideas. Don't assume anything about a mass number of people. do you mean athiest? No, theist is anyone who believes in a higher power. It could be anything, I don't appreciate labels for this sort of thing, I just don't have a real religious identity. Oh, I think I might be theist. The bible, as you can see, has been pissing me off lately. Yeah, the Bible was written by man trying to comprehend God and the universe. Some of it may have been correct in some way (a part of Genesis seems to describe something similar to the Big Bang), but most of it is just human storytelling and historical warping. I just think there must be some sort of intelligent order in our universe, looking at how mind-mindbogglingly complex it is. Our space is infinite, and beyond that infinity are other universes. I think something had to have made it. As religious texts are a human thing, they're full of human error and bias so I won't believe them, but they have nice philosophies. I just live and try be good to the world and myself. I agree, and i didnt mean what i said last night. i was angry, and it was only directed at the christians who are stubborn and refuse to open up to reality, hate gays and blame it on the bible, but still eat shellfish anyway. im also pissed about the way the church used to torcher people to stay in control and smother science and how some still dont believe in evolucion.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:01 pm
Lexi_Claire Belethiel Lexi_Claire Belethiel No, theist is anyone who believes in a higher power. It could be anything, I don't appreciate labels for this sort of thing, I just don't have a real religious identity. Oh, I think I might be theist. The bible, as you can see, has been pissing me off lately. Yeah, the Bible was written by man trying to comprehend God and the universe. Some of it may have been correct in some way (a part of Genesis seems to describe something similar to the Big Bang), but most of it is just human storytelling and historical warping. I just think there must be some sort of intelligent order in our universe, looking at how mind-mindbogglingly complex it is. Our space is infinite, and beyond that infinity are other universes. I think something had to have made it. As religious texts are a human thing, they're full of human error and bias so I won't believe them, but they have nice philosophies. I just live and try be good to the world and myself. I agree, and i didnt mean what i said last night. i was angry, and it was only directed at the christians who are stubborn and refuse to open up to reality, hate gays and blame it on the bible, but still eat shellfish anyway. im also pissed about the way the church used to torcher people to stay in control and smother science and how some still dont believe in evolucion. I don't even remember talking to anyone last night. xD Yeah, well that was the past and barbarism like that took place all over the globe and every culture did it. It's very silly that they don't believe in evolution, in my opinion. There is so much proof to back up that theory, it isn't even funny. Any proof that supports Creationism is a**-pulls and out dated ideas.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:19 pm
Belethiel Sad. Just sad. Gay people aren't hurting anybody, how is homosexuality a sin? I'll never understand that viewpoint. The way I see it, if you're not hurting anybody or putting others at risk or living in a way that can damage you and your environment, I don't see why you can't do something. I don't agree with them- but they think that it is hurting people. If you give more of yourself to something that isn't "holy" than you do to God, you'll end up harming yourself and others is what they teach. It has to do with idoletry.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:29 pm
Belethiel Creationism is a**-pulls and out dated ideas.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 pm
Esiris Belethiel Sad. Just sad. Gay people aren't hurting anybody, how is homosexuality a sin? I'll never understand that viewpoint. The way I see it, if you're not hurting anybody or putting others at risk or living in a way that can damage you and your environment, I don't see why you can't do something. I don't agree with them- but they think that it is hurting people. If you give more of yourself to something that isn't "holy" than you do to God, you'll end up harming yourself and others is what they teach. It has to do with idoletry. How in the world is loving another human being like idolatry at all? It's the same as a man loving a woman. I never hurt myself and others, and my life isn't wholly dedicated to God. :/ Even if one does that, then even then that person can hurt themselves and others. The thing that hurts humans the most is want, and for most people that is unavoidable.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:00 am
Belethiel How in the world is loving another human being like idolatry at all? It's the same as a man loving a woman. I never hurt myself and others, and my life isn't wholly dedicated to God. :/ Even if one does that, then even then that person can hurt themselves and others. The thing that hurts humans the most is want, and for most people that is unavoidable. In the Catholic Chruch they talk about how becoming obsessed with physical pleasure, sex or a spouse replaces God in their heart with that pleasure or person- it's not that hetero-couples are free from idolerty, but because it's in a sacrament then if it doesn't become an obsession it's a blessing. I really don't agree with it- I'm not Catholic or anything, but I know some people (straight and gay) who love sex more than their partner and so I know it can happen.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:33 pm
I've heard several adults say that too actually. It somewhat irks me. For them to say they have "friends" who are homosexual and say "I don't shut them out but I still think its wrong." shouldn't really be labeled as the homosexual's "friend". Most homosexuals (me included) see that as close of a characteristic as race.
Here's my point of view:
In my eyes, she's basically saying the equivalent to, "I have (Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, etc.) friends, but I still let them know that I think it's wrong."
Now, this is because of her beliefs, so I won't say that she's a bad person because of what she believes. It's not her fault. (I'm a Christian myself, I just don't believe the bible exactly word for word)
BUT! There are MANY people out there who will use the "I have gay friends" excuse just to make them not look bad to the popular eye. And that bothers me half to death, because If it was my friend, even my best friend, who came up to me and said, "I don't think that you being gay is right." then without a second thought, I would say, "Then it's time we stopped being friends."
The topic i was basically getting at was just the fact that people will say, "I have gay friends", just so that what they would say next wouldn't seem as bad as it would if they hadn't used that excuse. But it my eyes, it makes them look even worse.
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