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 Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:11 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:28 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:29 pm
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This is all quoted from an REAL wiccan who IS part of the Gardnarian Coven, which the first and only ever true wicca coven. Read carefully the bolded paragraphs.
Quote: ...Wicca is oathbound. What this means is every person who has become a Wiccan, in the proper way, has sworn an oath never to reveal the orthopraxy of Wicca unless that other person is 'a proper person, properly prepared.' This means, in essence, that a coven will only teach the orthopraxy to those who have been 'properly prepared', ie. have become an initiate, and have sworn the very same oath. This oath is fearsome. It is not undertaken lightly, and those who break it are cast out and reviled, for good reason. Because of this, even people who choose to leave Wicca, are still expected to uphold this oath. The oath also means you may not publish Wiccan practices in books, or other media, where it would be viewed by non-initiates.
No book at the bookstore, no website online, has ever had a single scrap of actual Wiccan material.
Quote: Initiation, Mystery-based, and Experiential: We'll tackle these three together. Initiation is VERY important in Wicca. Without this event - without experiencing this ritual - you'll never fully understand Wicca, even if you were to somehow gain access to Wiccan material without being an initiate. Without initiation, you have no access to the Mysteries. Mystery-based paths have existed for thousands of years. A Mystery is just an experience that changes your perception and understanding of events and objects and energies - and there are plenty out there that are easily available to everyone. A Mystery is always the same event: what varies is how an individual experiences them. Even experiencing a sunset will be a different Mystery every time, depending on environmental conditions, season, location, and the person themselves. Some Mysteries, however, are shaped and built around specific events, to build a consistent framework for the experience - historically, the Eleunesian Mysteries come to mind. The Wiccan Mysteries are the same way. The ritual, done properly, by people qualified to perform it, builds this framework. Each initiate will have a slightly different experience - but the Mysteries themselves are the same, inside that framework. Obviously, if you change the framework, you will access Mysteries, but they will not be the Wiccan Mysteries. Without experiencing the Wiccan Mysteries properly, you will always lack the proper context to understand the orthopraxy of Wicca. It's why you can't be a Wiccan alone, you can't teach yourself, and you can't learn it from a book or online. Without that initiatory experience of the proper Mysteries, you're lacking a key that will allow you to unlock the meaning and understanding of the rituals practiced by Wiccans.Initiation is always practiced cross-gender. A woman is initiated by a man, and a man by a woman. If you run across someone who says they were initiated by someone of the same sex as them, it was not a valid Wiccan initiation.
Quote: Coven-based: One can't be a Wiccan alone. Aside from the fact that one can't self-initiate... The rites of Wicca, recorded in the Book of Shadows each coven keeps a hand-copied version of, basically define what Wicca is. These rites were never meant to be practiced alone. They're based on having a full coven of initiates to perform properly. Solitary Wiccans really don't exist. You can have initiated Wiccans who are unable to practice with their covens: they moved, they're away, they got sick, etc. But what they do on their own is neo-pagan witchcraft, heavily flavoured by Wicca, performed by a Wiccan - it's not proper Wiccan practice. And finding an actual, lineaged coven (we'll talk about lineage later) can be a lot of work - travel, time, money, energy. And those sacrifices to attend a group are expected. It's considered normal. People who complain about not finding a coven in their area so they can learn properly, are typically looked at with some disdain, especially by those Wiccans who travel considerable lengths to their own covens.
I think these are the mains bits that everyone here should know. If you still claim to be Wiccan and use the title Wicca.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:39 pm
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Kuudere-senpai Ugh. I know NOTHING about history. Lol. I barely know my own country's history and stuff from high school and etc. My brain just hurts and I see no sense in looking back into the past through history.
Like Hitler liked sex, and may have fathered a child with a friend's wife
Ghandi liked to have sex when he was younger, and disowned his firstborn son
And said coven is the original coven, and there are now branches of Wicca. Islam has two major branches
Christianity, Judaism and Islam are almost the same religion at the core, and yet they are distinctly different
So no, it's not the only coven, merely the original
Look through time and Christianity. So many variations. Catholic, Baptist, Protestant, etc.
So yes, there are Wiccans out there that don't follow the original coven's orders. Doesn't mean they're not true Wiccans, unless you're being a closed-minded bigot |
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:40 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:53 pm
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Kitalpha Hart StrayKit sure, unless you want to suddenly do some made car tricks and almost fall over riding on two tires to get back on the right road again, I can work with PMs ^_^ excuse me while I s**t bricks laughing XD Send me one, then
you are excused m'lady~ |
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:34 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:54 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:12 pm
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