War and Peace

[trojan09]

i think is through human nature... we talk of a perfect world with no war but thats impossible on this earth.... we are human, we are greedy,lustful,jealous, and many other things that make us hate other people. to get rid of war we would have to get rid of hate. which is impossible. as long as there are about 10 people on earth there will be war. its sad but true. war is something that will never go away  

[MemorysGalleySlave]

War is a result of the ever human struggle, or rather, a reaction and a reflection. To obtain peace, one would have to find the peace within themselves first. War is a fight that expands to a massive scale, but everyday a human goes through a war. The struggle to maintain one's belief of self while surviving in the world with other human beings. Peace can be achievable, but everlasting is the real question.
Think about it, the native american tribes or even further back, when man kind was in the tribal era. We were divided into not black, white, rich, poor, but as hunter and gather, one who hunts for animals and the other to gather produce. Life was peaceful, until there was something that broke that peace.
Peace isn't an unachievable thing, but it is impossible to maintain it. Change is ever lasting, so the present situation is inevitable to change. However, that doesn't mean it should be something that should be pushed away. Hope is the surviving thing that allows people to strive for peace.

As for the hate, one should see where the hate originates from, or rather, any emotion that is considered negative. Try viewing the negative as something to be joyful about, something that allows peace to become a reality. Negatives are needed, for it reminds one that they are still human, still capable of feeling existence. This can also lead into the concept of fear, or rather, a theory of why people fear the dark.
The dark brings upon demons that people fear, but their imaginations are what allows the fear to grow. As for where the fear originates, the dark makes one feel isolated, alone, the only person present is the person. So, the demons are aspects the person fears or hates within themselves. If one to relieze that the dark is not a place to be afraid but rather a place to see into themselves, one would realize that the dark is one of the obvious places for one to truly be one's self, and bringing contentment within and be a forward step to peace.
Start with the self, then expand, and maybe, humanity would be able to grasp peace for even a brief period of time.  

[Buffer920]

there will always be war, if the nations achive peace then it will be wars with little things such as proxy wars  

[Suicidesoldier#1]

War can be necessary. In a perfect world it would never be required, but we do not live in a perfect world and we are not perfect people.

The greatest resolution to any conflict would be for it to never have occurred in the first place.


Obviously it has.

The second would be to talk it out peacefully in order to resolve your problems, convince the other side what they are doing is wrong; except they are insane, illogical, do not pay attention to reason or logic or empathy, and their brains are so set are a singular idea that nothing could convince them- they would essentially have to live out their entire lives again, all the while committing themselves to the action whilst pointing a gun towards your head, and really attempt to take in more information, with several changes allocated, for their minds to change; obviously, we cannot go back in time or make a person live out another life without any harm from the first, so their mind is set in stone.

How does one stop a meteorite from crushing earth; do we let it pass, proclaiming violence is bad and that we must talk it out of destroying it, or do we merely blow it up?


Those incapable of understanding logic, in most part becuase they refuse to do so, cannot be talked out of doing something using logic and reason and empathy, and thus they might as well be a stone or a pebble or a meteorite. Words will not work on them as they cannot even rationalize the situation; they are so far lost, even in their own mind, that it would simply take a lifetime to change, and involve going back in time, which in all reality may be impossible.

Not just a matter of laziness, but a lacking of capacity to do so; thus, we are left with another option.



Either we lay down and die, letting evil people ravage the earth and kill millions becuase everyone is too afraid of being imperfect and dieing...

Or we attempt to save the good people, through whatever means necessary, and preserve them so that, after all the bad people are eliminated (killed, put in jail, convinced to be nice etc.) we will live a comfortable life. Attempting to place yourself on a pedestal and proclaim you are perfect will get people killed.

It's a life and death situation. You can pretend to act special when in reality you would do whatever it takes to yourself, or simply flat-out die, or you can do what's necessary. It is neither fun nor nice nor good, but it may be necessary, and may even be just.

All human life is sacred, but until we are capable of doing everything, which we may never be able to do, the only reasonable option is to attempt to save as many lives as possible, and to eliminate the least contributing, or the most harming individuals first- these may include said individuals that are doing said bad deeds in the first place.




A train is traveling at 60 miles an hour one way- if left on it's path, it will surely run over and kill a person tied the tracks. If made to go the other way, by a lever, it will surely kill 200 people as they fly off a cliff. You have but seconds to respond and if you do nothing, you will kill 201 people, as the train will keep going and run over the person and fly off the cliff.

What do you do? Kill said 1 person, kill all 200 people, or kill all 201 people and do nothing? Live in your little fantasy world where you are perfect, or make the tough decision to save as many lives as possible? What exactly do you do?


Would you judge others for doing the right thing in that situation, saving 200 and only letting one die, for being a murder for killing said one person, and knowing that your action would kill them and doing it anyways?

If it's okay to kill said 1 person and save 200, why is it not okay to kill a serial killer, or a dictator, or people of a military to shut them down, to save countless lives? Is it not better to let a murder die then a single innocent person?

It is justified when the only available, reasonable option to save people is to kill someone else.



It is never nice or good, but usually necessary and justified.

To judge someone for not being perfect becuase they don't possess magical powers and can't magically solve every problem in the world is not only absurd, but insane, and you would be a heartless illogical person.

Thus the only reasonable option is that, in order to save some, or people who are largely innocent of any major crime, others may need to be sacrificed.

Until the day we have magic and can teleport people into prisons at will and can convince insane people that what they are doing is wrong and cause them to longer be insane...

We must respond as we would to a meteorite, with lots and lots of firepower.

Thus is the way to survival; peace can be achieved by eliminating those who are bad, and even if war is necessary to began with, it is an undeniable fact that if all the bad warring people were gone, there would be no more war.  

[bluecherry]

Suicidesoldier#1

I would tip this if guilds had that feature.