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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:53 am
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Sirius Black-Snuffles Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:52 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:34 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:39 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:43 pm
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Sirius Black-Snuffles Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:50 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:35 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:25 am
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I'm not really sure why I'm commenting, I just feel I need to.
Okay, I am not a feminist. I disagree completly with a lot of feminist principals (such as most of them are pro choice. I'm not because I believe in consequences. If you do something like having sex, then you should have to deal with the reaction to that choice and not illiminate it. But I digress). I can, however, see where they are coming from a little bit.
Stereotypes are fed to us by the media. They are everywhere, and it takes a great deal of work to escape them. Work that, unfortunatly, most people regardless of their sex, sexual orientation, race, or religion don't bother to get away from. People are to willing to believe what the media tells them, in particular the printed media. For some reason they seem to be under the delusion that just because something is printed its true.
Now, I grew up in a largely gender neutral area where teachers tried much to hard to be politically correct, almost to the point that they could no longer actually teach because they were afraid of offending someone (sounds like something out of Farenhiet 451, which I believe was actually bashing the political correctness of our society but I'm getting off topic again). My school had a very much 'don't ask, don't tell' policy about student sexuality.
Being they kind of person I am, I knew the sexual orientation of a lot of my friends. Most were straight, I had one homosexual guy friend, and a handful of bisexual female friends. In fact, the girl who I often refur to as my twin is bisexual.
Unfortunatly for them, the area I lived in was also intensly homophobic. I cannot count the times I had to actually physically hurt my guy friends before they would stop "gay-bashing". Why? Because the media tells them its wrong. That is how they percieve it. Does that make them wrong? No. Does it make them naieve? Probably.
Yes, they shouldn't bash "gays" or follow stereotypes. In turn, we shouldn't bash them. They aren't bad people. Misinformed and naieve, probably, but they're still people and we have no more right to bash them then they do to bash us or anything else.
There. I think that's what I had to say.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:19 pm
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:26 am
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:06 am
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:07 pm
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Meh, I wouldn't want to live in the wizarding world, it's too backwards a society.
But anyhow, I hadn't really noticed the gender discrepancy in the "slash" medium until you guys pointed it out... I mean, one of my favourite fic authors is male, and they get a lot of positive comments. Now I don't doubt there being a discrepancy, mind you, but somehow I've been able to avoid it, so it's obviously not predominant everywhere.
And I agree with Regulus on that. I mean, men and women having all these pre-concieved notions about how women are and how men are, and then living it out... it really disturbs me. Are these notions based off of personal experience? No. They're not even based off of others' experiences... they're based on the media's archetypal roles that everybody plays.
I remember discussing brain physiology with a handful of males and one female, and one of the males actually said, "Oh, yea, well females just can't be logical." I couldn't believe that people actually still subscribed to that belief! And I couldn't even begin to imagine how the female of the group felt. She didn't say anything. So finally I just told him, "Hmm, I didn't think people still subscribed to that belief. Well, I did read somewhere that the more educated and intelligent a man is, the more likely he is to regard females as equals, so I guess that explains it."
And he got uncomfortable and said, "Hey, I was just kidding!" So he was probably looking for camaraderie in his fellow males, but backed down when we didn't agree. And then one of my friends piped up and said he, personally thought females were smarter than males, but I disagreed with that too, asking what was wrong with being equal. Males and Females (tend to) have some physiological brain differences to account for, but both come with pluses and minuses, so you get a difference, but with a maintenance for quality in both cases.
Later with my close friends, the guy who suggested females were smarter (possibly in an attempt to make the female feel better after the affront from the other guy), asked me "Do you really think he was kidding?" and the female answered with a "No." very quickly.
So, yea. Basically people hold on to all the media-generated pre-concieved notions most if they're uneducated and naive.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:52 pm
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*bows down to Reg and Eol*
You both rock.
And Reg, I do have to disagree with one small point that's totally off topic about pro-choice.
You have to realize, I'm that .0000000001% Where my mother was on birth control AND my father was wearing a condom. Condoms are said to work what 98% of the time? And birth control 99% or some crap like that, I don't know, either way, I'm from that extremely small percent. And my mom did consider abortion because--face it, people have sexual desires. Males peak at 18 and females (unfortuantly) peak in their 30s. They took all the extra procautions but yet, *waves* hello.
Not to mention if you were to make abortions illegal--you then have to think of all those "special cases" such as Rape, and disabilities in the child (if you don't have the means to raise a disabled child and they're probably going to die early anyways you really shouldn't put them through the suffering) health complications, etc. You make it illegal for one, you make it illegal for all. Not that it would matter because then you would have that slap dash jobs done in the basement of this place or the basement of that place where there's health risks galore and you can't control when the abortion takes place (which tri-mester and all that crap).
So yeah...I'm pro-choice because of that.
But I do admit some "feminists" take it too far (and you have to admit--this happens in every "minority" whether they are gay, black, female, etc) "Well we want equal rights!" and yet the "equal rights" they want--no one has. So *shrug* whatever.
The human race amuses me. It's like watching a bunch of nuns and priests trying to catch a greased pig in a private highschool (my mom for one of their many senior pranks, they managed to catch it on video)
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