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 Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:32 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:42 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:39 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:02 pm
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Rei Uchikino Azusanga Rei Uchikino Not that I have anything against gay marraige, but I don't see the point in it. A gay couple can just live together and it would basically be like they're married. But it's like you said, homosexuals should have the same rights as everyone else. And if they want to get married then why not. But they're not. If a straight couple lived together, it'd be like they were married too.... This is true. But originally marriage wasn't created out of love. It was arranged to make families. The way I see it, a straight couple that plans on having a family normally gets married. I don't know of any families where the mom and dad have never been married at all and just lived together. But I do know some straight people who don't see the point in marriage and don't want any kids, and say that they'll just live with their significant other like they're married.
But that's their choice. There are also some straight people who need to marry. Just as some gay people feel that they need to. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:08 pm
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Personally, in America, I don't think the religious argument should be tied in. We are not a Christian nation, nor a Muslim, nor Jewish, nor Buddhist, or any other type of affiliation. That is one of the main concepts of America, which is why marriage, in America, is not a religious thing, it is quite literally a legal thing. It writes on paper that you are responsible for each other, often that a name has changed, and that you are permanently bonded. That is why divorce is a legal process.
So religion has absolutely nothing to do with it, and I think that argument is thoroughly unfair.
I am bisexual, and when considering the idea of being with a woman, I would want to be able to marry her. I would want that special day, to see my bride as beautiful as she can make herself, all for me, and for her, to feel special about our commitment. To many, and myself, that is what marriage is about. I don't think anyone should be deprived of it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:46 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:09 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:01 am
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I could be biased on this matter since I consider myself at the very least 99% lesbian, but I say "Yay."
Does it hurt others? No. Do straight, married, middle-aged men with a little boy fetishes hurt others? You're damn right they do. Why should these abusive people be allowed to marry another when we (the majority of the gay community) are just as upright and live just as decent loves as others are not? It seems a little silly, in my opinion.
I respect a good person and their religion, mostly due to the fact that a good portion of my family on my father's side are Christians with my father and grandmother are ordained ministers, and I believe that if they do not wish to marry a gay couple then they shouldn't be forced to. Of course there are radical, extremist religious folk that believe this will end up being the case and inevitably cause the downfall of humanity as we know it, there's not much that can be done to change this sort of outlandish thinking, sadly.
Others have mentioned the legal benefits of marriage? One partner in a gay relationship may not visit their spouse in the event that said person is in the hospital simply because they are not family, though they very well may be considered such even though the government may not recognize their deep love and attachment to one another as something real.
I am longing for the day when I can move to another state since I have my doubts that Florida will ever release its ironclad hold on homophobic restrictions that do not allow us to either marry, have anything that might even remotely resemble a marriage, or adopt. Why? Because Crist is a dillhole. -.-
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:17 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:51 pm
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I say "Yay".
I have my own reasons and opinions, regardless that I am bi. I am not using this as my opinion or to be bais. This is truly how I feel and how I would feel even if I was straight.
Gay marriage should be legal. Love is defined not as 'a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person who is straight.' but rather just as 'a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.' It does not specifically say a person who is straight or of the opposite sex. Love is meant for anyone whether they be the same-sex or opposite-sex.
Not going back to Rei Uchikino's statement that there is no point in it and that they 'can just live together and it would basically be like they're married', I don't mean to offend, but I find that statement a little awkward. Marriage means a lot to straight couples, so why can't it mean a lot to same-sex couples? Marriage isn't just something that is for the wedding or the contract or to 'show the straight people that they can't win', but it's more than that. Marriage is not only a bond through a wedding and a contract, but it means so much more and has a lot more things to it. A marriage has many things that are not included with non-marriage.
For instance, when a couple isn't married, can a loved one whom we say passed away leave their possessions and what they want to their loved one? No. Can a loved one visit their loved one in a hospital without the loved one's family? No. Marriage has not only a spiritual bond, but as much as we hate it, a government bond. It has the many things that only can be received when you get married. Some of these include hospital rights, inheritance rights, financial rights, and so many other things.
Marriage is something that shouldn't matter because of who you love. I mean, does it matter if an African American marries an Asian American? No. Does it matter if a disable person married someone who is on their last breath of life? No. We don't discriminate against skin color or disabilities or financial problems within a family or even say a man who marries a women with three kids, so why should same sex matter? If someone is going to begin judging on same sex for love, then they might as well judge by ethnicity and everything else.
Okay I better stop for now because if I keep going..This response will last three pages... sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:42 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:42 am
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Kaiyle Brightblade Rei Uchikino Not that I have anything against gay marraige, but I don't see the point in it. A gay couple can just live together and it would basically be like they're married. But it's like you said, homosexuals should have the same rights as everyone else. And if they want to get married then why not. There are legal benefits to being legally married. Like taxes. Two adults should be able to get married no matter what. Separation of church and state please. Oh, and it would bring in lots of revenue when gays all of sudden start paying for marriage licenses. So not only does it not harm anyone, but it actually helps!
Those are perfect points, Kaiyle.
Plus: it's not the same to sit around pretending you're married. If it was, no one would do it. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:17 am
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:11 am
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:25 am
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