Prostitution

[broken_bleeding_angel]

faretheewell

Broken has a very good point. The dangers of the profession are not exclusive to the profession.

To add to that, the idea that a job is dangerous does not make any other jobs illegal.

For example, working in the Fort Mac Murray oil sands is a very dangerous profession. People do get injured on the job, and there is the potential every day that someone could get killed. Yet this job is not illegal.

Working in a pipe yard is very dangerous. People have been killed doing this job. Yet it is still legal.

Carpentry, welding, steal workers, textile industry, mining, etc. All jobs where people have lost life, limb or health. All still legal. Hell, people have gotten themselves killed being University professors.

It is still somewhat more dangerous to be a prostitute than to do any of the above, however. Why? Because prostitution is currently illegal, so employment health and safety codes cannot be applied. Would the health and safety codes entirely eliminate the risk to the women involved? Well, no. No more than in the pipe yard in my hometown where there was a fatality a couple of years ago. Accidents happen. However, regulations would make it safer.

Legalized prostitution would also cause other employment laws to go into effect. Laws such as statutory holidays, working hours, working conditions, minimum wage restrictions, etc. All laws designed to keep employees from being exploited.

Again, the benefits of legalization outweigh the negative consequences.

Thank you fare. You brought up another good point. <3  

[Kaiyle Brightblade]

Matron Mord Sith

Kaiyle Brightblade

Matron Mord Sith

Kaiyle Brightblade

Okay, here's a con:

If we legalize prostitution we are sending the message that it is okay. Most people might agree with that. But would you want your (hypothetical) children to hear that message? How would you feel if your daughter wanted to be a prostitute, or your son hired an "escort"?

I'd be slightly disappointed if my son has to buy female attention. I just feel that's just slightly pathetic considering that our family has good genes therefore we are all very attractive. If you can't attract the attention of the opposite sex (or same) then you are not a true member of the family.

This is the negative aspect I meant. Prostitution takes the place of the search for a real mate. What if your son never wanted to date, but instead paid for sex on a regular basis? What if your daughter only went out with clients and never got the chance to find her soul mate? I know this is their choice. But is that what you would really want for them?

Seeing how my family has good genes, my son would be attractive. I'd rather him go out and seduce a woman rather than having to waste his money. Paying for attention is what an ugly man would do in my opinion. An attractive man can seduce a girl and dump her when hes through with her
Like I said, its her choice if she wants to be a whore. I have no say in what she wants to do with her life once shes an adult. Yes, I want is best for her but if sluting around is what makes her happy then more power to her.

Yet seduction also typically invovles paying money. Usually the man takes the girl on several dates and pays for dinners, movie tickets, flowers, or presents. If prostitution was safe, legal, and readily available, don't you think some men would take the easy way out? Either way they have to pay money, but with an escort they are guaranteed sex at the end of the night. It could possibly lead to a decline in marriages. This is just an opinion.  

[Kaiyle Brightblade]

Everyone, please try to be nicer to Joe_is_my_hubby. I know she didn't come up with many concrete examples, but this thread needs some dissenters or it won't be a debate. Even if the objections she has are of religious origin, I would find it very interesting to hear them out because so many Americans are religious. This could give us a clue as to why prostitution remains illegal even though almost every person here immediately saw the value of legalizing it.  

[iDorkosaurous_Rex]

Yesh, I have something to say.

Kaiyle, I believe these girls did nothing wrong. And if you do, could you please say what they did wrong?

I guess we'll never know, because I forgot.

 

[Kaiyle Brightblade]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that the other girls were doing something wrong. I understand that many people were upset by what they considered to be Joe's lack of reasons. However, I would prefer that if you find someone has failed to back up their opinions or has stated inadequate reasoning you simply ask them to elaborate. Also, I would like to direct you to debating rule #6

Attack the idea, not the person

meaning that if you do not agree with her opinion that prostitution is wrong, you do not find fault with her as a person but rather try to gather evidence to change her mind. Again, I'm sorry. I think that what most people said was fine.  

[ALLIGAT0R TEARS]

Isn't there the Bunny Ranch or whatever it's called?

Anyway, honestly I don't like the idea of prostitution but the fact that it could be taxed like crazy is a nice outcome. However I do see it as a disgusting way to make a living or to get some action. I say it is disgusting because it does not go with my morals. I think having sex for money just does not represent people well. I mean it shows the lack of skills you have if you have to resort to such a thing to earn money. I mean anyone and almost everyone is capable of having sex. That is all it takes, and I can't respect someone for that. However, I don't see it that different from pornography, so I suppose I would be fine with it being legal anyway.

My children would already have the choice of being in the porn industry. I would not be worried at all. If they choose to confide it such jobs then so be it. I will still love them and respect their decision. Although, I would make sure to worn them of the emotional and physical comflicts they would be at risk of going through. It really is not a nice industry.
I am sorry if I offended anyone.  

[u nd i]

All I can think of is my future kids going "mummy, when I grow up I want to sell myself to strangers for money!"

I am against sexual immorality, so obviously I am against this.

Sexually transmitted diseases would increase. Obviously there would be very clean and closely watched places, but you always get the really "scuzzy" ones that will legally be able to spread everywhere.

More marriages would be broken up/general relationships as it would be a lot easier to go and hire someone.

Also, girls will be a lot less motivated to make something more out of themselves. I see girls around me who lack brains but have body and claim that will just go into modelling and such, and this legal profession would inevitably be added to that list.

The only real benefit I see is that the illegal sex industry will be unveiled in all it's glory. This would have an impact on the human trafficking trade and many human right breaches/law breakins that are overlooked.  

[ALLIGAT0R TEARS]

Ananobot

All I can think of is my future kids going "mummy, when I grow up I want to sell myself to strangers for money!"

I am against sexual immorality, so obviously I am against this.

Sexually transmitted diseases would increase. Obviously there would be very clean and closely watched places, but you always get the really "scuzzy" ones that will legally be able to spread everywhere.

More marriages would be broken up/general relationships as it would be a lot easier to go and hire someone.

Also, girls will be a lot less motivated to make something more out of themselves. I see girls around me who lack brains but have body and claim that will just go into modelling and such, and this legal profession would inevitably be added to that list.

The only real benefit I see is that the illegal sex industry will be unveiled in all it's glory. This would have an impact on the human trafficking trade and many human right breaches/law breakins that are overlooked.

The bolded part is the only statement that I have a problem with. If a marriage fails because prostitution becomes legal, then I question the relationship. Prostitution is still going on, but if a man feels the urge to cheat on his wife then it is not due to prostitution being legalized. Their relationship was just not a strong one to begin with.  

[u nd i]

I know what you mean, but if it was legalised it would be a more obvious temptation because it would be right out there. You bring up a good point though.

And it's not just men who cheat, but I won't go into that.  

[ALLIGAT0R TEARS]

Oh darn, I made myself seem sexist. Haha Yeah I didn't mean to stereotype. Women definitely have the same chance of cheating. If I was married though, I would not blame the prostution, if I was cheated on. Just the man. It just makes it easier for the spouses that always had a cheating behavior.  

[u nd i]

I have to say I fully agree with that statement. Prostitution would be more like a catalyst. Still negative, but obviously it is the person to blame mostly.  

[broken_bleeding_angel]

Well with the argument stated above it can be quite the opposite too. If a marriage is failing because of a lack of sex/meeting their sexual needs,both partners could agree to have prostitutes while still maintaining their relationship. Though this would take a turn for monogamy, it would certainly help those certain relationships where sex is their only issue.  

[Kid Generic]

Ananobot

All I can think of is my future kids going "mummy, when I grow up I want to sell myself to strangers for money!"

I am against sexual immorality, so obviously I am against this.

Sexually transmitted diseases would increase. Obviously there would be very clean and closely watched places, but you always get the really "scuzzy" ones that will legally be able to spread everywhere.

More marriages would be broken up/general relationships as it would be a lot easier to go and hire someone.

Also, girls will be a lot less motivated to make something more out of themselves. I see girls around me who lack brains but have body and claim that will just go into modelling and such, and this legal profession would inevitably be added to that list.

The only real benefit I see is that the illegal sex industry will be unveiled in all it's glory. This would have an impact on the human trafficking trade and many human right breaches/law breakins that are overlooked.

May I take down your points without offending you? I hope so.

For one thing I believe that your childrens morals will come form your rearing rather then what is or isnt legal.

As for STI infections, if prostitution were legal the rates would actually go down due to mandatory screenings as well as health benefits and easier accsess to medicine, not to mention that condoms usage would probably be mandatory as well.

If marriages are so unstable that all it takes is being able to legally hire a women to break it up it definatly isnt a good marriage. To which I add that going to prostitutes is a symptom of a bad marriage not a cause.

The reasoning that if prostitution is legal girls who dont feel smart enough to do anything else will invariably end up prostituting is so misogynistic I wont even go there.

As for your final point I agree whole heartedly and would like to add that legalising prostitution would also make it easier for current prostitutes to protect themselves against STI's as well as violent johns and pimps and give them more financial stability.


and also define sexual immorality.  

[MissLovedChi]

Well, I don't see what's the problem with making prostitution legal! After reading all these points I'm fine with it! Not so long ago there was this report on the news about a prostitute who was successfully able to pay for a house, take care of her two children (who one of them is going to university) and keep up with her job as that! She keeps everything organized and she is compleatly content with that. I see no reason why to frown at her!
Obviously if it's legal then more will be aware of it, yes, and kids might as well. But when those children go asking what prostitution is, those parents better respond, "I'll tell you when you're older." and when that kid is much older and actually know what prostitution is, we'll see if he/she still is interested in it!
Well that's what I say. Nothing more! sweatdrop  

[Pom Graines]

broken_bleeding_angel

Well with the argument stated above it can be quite the opposite too. If a marriage is failing because of a lack of sex/meeting their sexual needs,both partners could agree to have prostitutes while still maintaining their relationship. Though this would take a turn for monogamy, it would certainly help those certain relationships where sex is their only issue.

Well this is in fact the case that is happening already. Except I'm not sure on the figures of marriages opening to prostitution but many marriages are at least opening up and becoming non-monogamous when the sex is the big issue.

While I don't think legalizing prostitution would be a cure-all for these sorts of things, after all no amount of legalizing things will help the communication and respect in a relationship, it could help in these situations.