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Hello, Faith! I was wondering if you'd be okay with me making a fling offer for Coquette? ovo
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Sure! My interest is piqued xD!
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Yasss, thank you so much! *_* Thoughts on Elijah? It would be plots-only, since my muse is still awful.
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- He is a gentle soul, and polite company as well! :D
He can come off as a pushover at first glance; despite the self-confidence that comes with learning to fight and protect oneself, he's always had esteem issues since he was a child (his mother loved and loves him, but didn't make it a secret that she was disappointed he was a dude LOL. She wanted to have daughters as repentance for her own shortcomings, so did not take it well when she had one daughter to three sons /steeplefingers).
However, once he gets over being shy, he can be a refreshing breath of air. He has a child's love of fun and learning, while retaining the wisdom of his years.
Like Coquette, he trains much and often; however, while he had minor training with a blade in his youth, he mainly sticks to just his fangs and claws. He trains for fun and for his physical health, rather than out of a desire or expectation that he would fight against others.
I was thinking they could meet, be impressed by each other's prowess, and grow feelings for one another? (Can be platonic or romantic, but it'd be a fling either way.) Which eventually leads them them mutually agreeing to have strong children? (If so, Elijah would propose he take the ladies back to his herd, The Code of Edda, whilst she take the dudes. CoE's flexible in that members are allowed to be part of other herds while they're within CoE; in addition, the children are taken on field trips a lot to learn about the Kawani lands, so it'd be possible for them to visit Coquette's side of the family while they grow, and later choose to stay with the Sinclairs instead.)
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Oooh, very good thoughts on Elijah! I'd love to fling the pair! I really -loved- reading about The Code of Edda in the basket contest, I'd definitely love for them to fling and to be involved with them! Plots only is perfectly fine with me. Believe me, I 100% understand about muses (/kicks her own/) last month was terrible for me trying to struggle with it. Thankfully its being more cooperative so far in this past week.
So, I think Coquette would be very hesitant about letting the girls go and not being able to oversee their training but as long as she and her family could still be involved with them, she could be coaxed into it. She would likely end up thinking of it as a temporary sacrifice to enable them to protect themselves better in the long run. Oh man though, if they ended up with all girls though, it would be quite painful for her. Still, she wouldn't go back on her agreement, it would just cause a lot of pain for her. The Sinclair family also allows its' members to be parts of other herds, so while it would rub Vincento (Coquette's grandfather and herd leader) the wrong way to have foals taken (and perhaps be a cause of fun dramatic arguments between him and Coquette xD), eventually he would come to terms with it as well.
I'm positive Coquette would be 100% on board with the idea of breeding to produce strong children, especially with someone whose company she enjoys. Her training does have a purpose due to her role in the herd but one of the reasons she is so good at it is she has always just really enjoyed it, she thinks the movements are beautiful and she enjoys the exertion, adrenaline, and energy that goes with it, so they could absolutely connect on that level. She hasn't had to fight against an opponent meaning her harm yet aside from rogue animals when she is out hunting or escorting someone as a guard.
Perhaps they could meet by chance while Coquette is out escorting her sister, Jezabelle, on a visit to see Belle's daughter, Claudette?
Claudette no longer lives with the rest of the Sinclairs, but in a nearby graveyard with her mate. Belle was attacked by a skinwalker a while back in the area around the graveyard where Claudette and Deathbringer live (Long story short, Claudette was first attacked by this skinwalker. Belle went looking for her when she noticed she was missing but only found bloody evidence of the attack and then Howl attacked her. Belle escaped with her life, barely, and eventually finds out that Claudette did too and is now happily lifemated to the graveyard guardian, Cethin Deathbringer) So Vincent has ordered that Belle take a guard whenever she goes to visit. Belle is dealing with some emotional scars from the attack, eventually she will recover, but she has a horror of re encountering Howl, Tiro's bear skinwalker.
My thought, Coquette could go off a ways for a minute and while she's gone, Elijah comes upon their camp and Belle freaks out because, at first only noticing his paws, she thinks Howl has come back to finish her in her bear form. Coquette comes barrelling in, hearing Belle scream, and confronts Elijah for scaring her. The two could fight but they are too evenly matched and end up enjoying themselves sparring rather than actually trying to hurt each other. This could be the spark that starts their friendship and leads to them deciding to have a fling!
So, I think Coquette would be very hesitant about letting the girls go and not being able to oversee their training but as long as she and her family could still be involved with them, she could be coaxed into it. She would likely end up thinking of it as a temporary sacrifice to enable them to protect themselves better in the long run. Oh man though, if they ended up with all girls though, it would be quite painful for her. Still, she wouldn't go back on her agreement, it would just cause a lot of pain for her. The Sinclair family also allows its' members to be parts of other herds, so while it would rub Vincento (Coquette's grandfather and herd leader) the wrong way to have foals taken (and perhaps be a cause of fun dramatic arguments between him and Coquette xD), eventually he would come to terms with it as well.
I'm positive Coquette would be 100% on board with the idea of breeding to produce strong children, especially with someone whose company she enjoys. Her training does have a purpose due to her role in the herd but one of the reasons she is so good at it is she has always just really enjoyed it, she thinks the movements are beautiful and she enjoys the exertion, adrenaline, and energy that goes with it, so they could absolutely connect on that level. She hasn't had to fight against an opponent meaning her harm yet aside from rogue animals when she is out hunting or escorting someone as a guard.
Perhaps they could meet by chance while Coquette is out escorting her sister, Jezabelle, on a visit to see Belle's daughter, Claudette?
Claudette no longer lives with the rest of the Sinclairs, but in a nearby graveyard with her mate. Belle was attacked by a skinwalker a while back in the area around the graveyard where Claudette and Deathbringer live (Long story short, Claudette was first attacked by this skinwalker. Belle went looking for her when she noticed she was missing but only found bloody evidence of the attack and then Howl attacked her. Belle escaped with her life, barely, and eventually finds out that Claudette did too and is now happily lifemated to the graveyard guardian, Cethin Deathbringer) So Vincent has ordered that Belle take a guard whenever she goes to visit. Belle is dealing with some emotional scars from the attack, eventually she will recover, but she has a horror of re encountering Howl, Tiro's bear skinwalker.
My thought, Coquette could go off a ways for a minute and while she's gone, Elijah comes upon their camp and Belle freaks out because, at first only noticing his paws, she thinks Howl has come back to finish her in her bear form. Coquette comes barrelling in, hearing Belle scream, and confronts Elijah for scaring her. The two could fight but they are too evenly matched and end up enjoying themselves sparring rather than actually trying to hurt each other. This could be the spark that starts their friendship and leads to them deciding to have a fling!
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Aww, thank you so much! ;w; I loved following the Sinclairs as well, and I'm glad they've a herd set up now (I say this over a year after the thread's been up LOL /lays down); I'm hoping it works out for the both of us! *w* It also looks like potential members of both can sort of balance it out by going to CoE during equinoxes, and to the Sinclairs during solstices? And thank you again! I hope your muse continues to do so as well! 8D
Elijah would feel the same if they ended up being all guys, haha. If a same-sex-for-all scenario occurred, I think he'd propose they try again, but he only has one slot open right now so it'd likely lead to (1) RP excuse of it not happening (doesn't take and he needs to return home for one reason or another; their first breeding together was hard on Coquette and one/both don't want to risk it again, could lead to more fam drams maybe?? ; etc.), or (2) WS/custom (if this, IC child could either have come from regular means or be from the star).
And that sounds great! They could spar together for the fun of it, helping to improve each other as well as themselves. The plot sounds perfect as well! :D I could see him trying to explain himself, but the unexpectedness of the attack and his initial shyness stuns him into silence, and being a "large dark stranger that doesn't talk" probably doesn't help his image. XD
After they get to know one another, I think he'd be very interested in hearing about her and her herd -- and visiting it, if able! One of the reasons CoE was set up was to protect them from outsiders (as well as one another), so he'd be curious to see what kind of similarities they may have. x3 (He'd also be forthcoming about his own herd's beliefs -- in particular the "valks kill to send peeps to paradise, bye!! (though realistically it's a low number per soq's lifetime, and not even in the double digits)" -- since he knows it's not one that is readily accepted, and wouldn't want to be deceptive or cause her to regret her decision.)
Elijah would feel the same if they ended up being all guys, haha. If a same-sex-for-all scenario occurred, I think he'd propose they try again, but he only has one slot open right now so it'd likely lead to (1) RP excuse of it not happening (doesn't take and he needs to return home for one reason or another; their first breeding together was hard on Coquette and one/both don't want to risk it again, could lead to more fam drams maybe?? ; etc.), or (2) WS/custom (if this, IC child could either have come from regular means or be from the star).
And that sounds great! They could spar together for the fun of it, helping to improve each other as well as themselves. The plot sounds perfect as well! :D I could see him trying to explain himself, but the unexpectedness of the attack and his initial shyness stuns him into silence, and being a "large dark stranger that doesn't talk" probably doesn't help his image. XD
After they get to know one another, I think he'd be very interested in hearing about her and her herd -- and visiting it, if able! One of the reasons CoE was set up was to protect them from outsiders (as well as one another), so he'd be curious to see what kind of similarities they may have. x3 (He'd also be forthcoming about his own herd's beliefs -- in particular the "valks kill to send peeps to paradise, bye!! (though realistically it's a low number per soq's lifetime, and not even in the double digits)" -- since he knows it's not one that is readily accepted, and wouldn't want to be deceptive or cause her to regret her decision.)
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Yes! We're still working on a lot of their specific cultural practices, partially because the necessity of using them hasn't popped up yet and even though we had started setting up the herd, so many members' plots were not yet at the point where they would have been brought into the herd, so we just let it sit there to let plots catch up. Now that a lot of the family members have joined, we do mean to flesh out a little more of the culture, but it often happens when we go out to eat together or just sit on the couch and talk for hours and we've both been busy 'adulting' xD. What is there is up to date so far though!
Should that end up being the case, or just for fun later on, I would definitely be open to WS babbins especially since it sounds like they will continue to be friendly later on so its definitely reasonable that they could repeat the deal. This all sounds good to me, and I'm glad you liked my entirely coffee fueled plot concept x'D coffee is so much help to me when I need to reply!
She'd be happy to share the details with him about her herd though, as well as being interested in hearing what his herd is like. I think the killing to send someone to valhalla thing might throw her, but she's no stranger to death, many of her relatives have killed for less so she would respect it. On the whole, the Sinclairs really encourage allowing people to be who they are without judgement and to respect different beliefs and practices. So many of the current members have suffered at the hands of others for being different so while she may not understand it, may even feel somewhat uneasy about it, she would accept it.
So what tends to be the best way to move foreword with this sort of ahead of time breeding plan as far as agreements and technicalities? Would the best course be for me to hold one of her breedings in reserve for him and then we can touch base again about entering raffles with them after his other flings?
Should that end up being the case, or just for fun later on, I would definitely be open to WS babbins especially since it sounds like they will continue to be friendly later on so its definitely reasonable that they could repeat the deal. This all sounds good to me, and I'm glad you liked my entirely coffee fueled plot concept x'D coffee is so much help to me when I need to reply!
She'd be happy to share the details with him about her herd though, as well as being interested in hearing what his herd is like. I think the killing to send someone to valhalla thing might throw her, but she's no stranger to death, many of her relatives have killed for less so she would respect it. On the whole, the Sinclairs really encourage allowing people to be who they are without judgement and to respect different beliefs and practices. So many of the current members have suffered at the hands of others for being different so while she may not understand it, may even feel somewhat uneasy about it, she would accept it.
So what tends to be the best way to move foreword with this sort of ahead of time breeding plan as far as agreements and technicalities? Would the best course be for me to hold one of her breedings in reserve for him and then we can touch base again about entering raffles with them after his other flings?
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Ouuu I'm looking forward to seeing when that happens! *w* The WS idea sounds perfect to me as well!
And if it helps, I usually see it this way: if someone had $1,000 to spend, they wouldn't mind if something was overpriced by 5 bucks; if someone only had a $10, though, they'd be a lot more frugal, and even a price change of pennies could make a difference.
(Generally, there's really no limit to how much a valk can "spend," but it's not seen as something to take lightly, so realistically not many are at risk -- even close friends and loved ones, since a valk judges differently. Some may strive for perfection and not kill those with noticeable flaws; some may believe close relationships bias them and thus avoid them as well; etc. Even with family, the valks are raised in a close-knit and caring group, so they would be appreciative of good family but it wouldn't be perceived as anything special and worth sending to Valhalla over. **Not to downplay actual good fams, but to give ideas for how I usually justify my valks having close ties without killing.
But yeah, IC reactions tend to be strong, in much the same way people fear being attacked/mugged by strangers or getting ebola, despite the statistical chance being really low. Fun drams, basically. 8) I am super glad to hear Coquette and the herd would be understanding, though! QwQ)
And unless breedings are plotted to be in a certain order (in his case, none of them are), I usually go by whoever asks me first when I have the space. I prefer to make the agreement ASAP (we can make WS agreements at the same time if you'd be down for that); for these kinds of things, they can be cancelled by just one party if one of us ends up disappearing (or changing their mind, for whatever reason), or can be continued if the remaining party wants, so!! I tend to be more comfortable with that, and not leave my partner in a ??? space if I end up getting hampered by IRL, or vice versa.
I know some are not fond of the idea of potentially having baskets while they're gone and being delegated one, though, so I leave the choice up to you!
And if it helps, I usually see it this way: if someone had $1,000 to spend, they wouldn't mind if something was overpriced by 5 bucks; if someone only had a $10, though, they'd be a lot more frugal, and even a price change of pennies could make a difference.
(Generally, there's really no limit to how much a valk can "spend," but it's not seen as something to take lightly, so realistically not many are at risk -- even close friends and loved ones, since a valk judges differently. Some may strive for perfection and not kill those with noticeable flaws; some may believe close relationships bias them and thus avoid them as well; etc. Even with family, the valks are raised in a close-knit and caring group, so they would be appreciative of good family but it wouldn't be perceived as anything special and worth sending to Valhalla over. **Not to downplay actual good fams, but to give ideas for how I usually justify my valks having close ties without killing.
But yeah, IC reactions tend to be strong, in much the same way people fear being attacked/mugged by strangers or getting ebola, despite the statistical chance being really low. Fun drams, basically. 8) I am super glad to hear Coquette and the herd would be understanding, though! QwQ)
And unless breedings are plotted to be in a certain order (in his case, none of them are), I usually go by whoever asks me first when I have the space. I prefer to make the agreement ASAP (we can make WS agreements at the same time if you'd be down for that); for these kinds of things, they can be cancelled by just one party if one of us ends up disappearing (or changing their mind, for whatever reason), or can be continued if the remaining party wants, so!! I tend to be more comfortable with that, and not leave my partner in a ??? space if I end up getting hampered by IRL, or vice versa.
I know some are not fond of the idea of potentially having baskets while they're gone and being delegated one, though, so I leave the choice up to you!
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That makes sense to me though, I love my family but they aren't perfect, they have many flaws that are just part of the package, so a Valkyrie could love someone more than anyone else but realize that they aren't perfect or they don't have that particular special something/s that a Valkyrie thinks qualifies you for Valhalla above anyone else. If the special person being sent to Valhalla had to be particularly brave, or particularly beautiful, or have to be equally strong in a few different areas that would narrow the pickings down even more for who would be 'qualified.' xD I imagine one people realized who they were they could either run for it or just try to seem really really unworthy xD. In that situation I feel like I would just start randomly listing all of my flaws to be on the safe side n_n;
That sounds perfectly fine to me if we do both the WS and the fling agreement! If I ever was to disappear for some reason or another I would have no problem with that happening.
That sounds perfectly fine to me if we do both the WS and the fling agreement! If I ever was to disappear for some reason or another I would have no problem with that happening.
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And, exactly! 8D Since it's up to the individual on what's considered worthy, though, there's a lot of criteria: some may find someone physically clumsy a worthy soul if they were optimistic and continued trying despite all odds; others may favor those with chaotic personalities as more attractive choices; etc. All very risky in the eyes of the non-valk. 8D But overall still statistically unlikely.
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Thats fun, I like it because its nearly impossible to have just a run of the mill meet and greet, there's always going to be something going on between the surface, be it the Valkyrie testing another soq against their criteria, or the soq freaking out trying to get away before they accidentally meet any criteria, love it!