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"I see..." said Ma with a blank face because Jacob had basically said he'd kill her if he could without damaging the rest of them. He bit into the creature he bought in part to help uplift and hide the grave mood he was in suddenly. It helped a little as blood usually did. He unlocked and opened the door for Jacob letting him in. He walked to the area with the matted floor and took off his shoes. "Will you let me test if magic works like qi?"

"Afterwards, unless you order me to do it now or refuse to if I don't speak my mind," said Ma retracting his claws a little, but could do it no where near as much or as quickly as Veni could.

Jacob responded with, "alright, afterwards then. I'm not forcing you, but I do want to know what it is you're thinking."

Ma nodded. "This shouldn't hurt much." He stepped in front of Jacob, spread his arms on either side and struck Jacob in both arms at the same time. His hands moved with precision and speed whose movements were hard to see. "This is what I do to myself when I feel like I am... having an off day with my own abilities. Can you still focus your magic through your arms? If not, cast it like you normally would when you cant."

"Now do what you'd normally do when you can't cast from your hands." Ma observed not just what Jacob did with a studying gaze, but also at how his energy flowed as he did that. Sort of like watching blood flow in the veins. "Can we see if I can make it difficult for you to cast a spell?" he asked and when Jacob agreed he said to cast it again and the vampire watched Jacob's movements again and tried to sense the energy and started to strike him in an attempt to block his ability release that energy from his body.

"I will try to knock them out instead of what I just did. I wanted to know if that could be done."

Ma put his hand on his head and slid it back. "Ah my thoughts.... I don't think everyone would agree to you killing Nafretiri Bixia if she is still alive... She is no doubt going to be furious to find that Veni is willing to be ruled over by someone else, a human of all creatures and would likely lash out as any ruler who returned found their direct subordinate following someone else other than them when they expected them to carry out as usual while they were gone. I know he was doing his role of protecting us the best way he thought possible, but she may not know or accept that. Yes she can cause us pain and hurt, but well... look at me and others in our family. Many of us have powers focused on causing pain and hurt and several of us aren't like me or Veni or Rosemary with their abilities. Nafretiri Bixia's power is similar to Rosemary's with the main difference being that she focused on feeding that aura over blood while Rosemary focuses on blood over the aura. This means she kept many of us in check with fear and mentally and physically painful punishments. I think some of them need it or else they'd go rogue and terrorize anyone and everyone. I probably would need it if I wasn't a late bloomer. Her qualities weren't completely bad. She was adamant about protecting us from outsiders. She had a general suspicion against all other vampires and she kept them away and protected us up till the last time I saw her. What I think is this; if you are just a family friend of mine I don't think most of what the queen does is any of your concern (business) especially if she is trying to get her subjects back unless she is at the point of trying to kill us."

Ma sat on one of the side benches lining the wall where parents of students usually sat and tapped his fingernails/claws together as he thought. "An emperor can make friends, but they still have duties to be an emperor above all even if they are benevolent and may have to command even their friends at times. I haven't heard of what you wonder about happening before. Though that option somewhat sounds like a civil war where brothers are against each other and choose different leaders...no not civil war... a civil war wouldn't involve others... more like some turning traitor and choosing another side... or even more lightly immigration to another country with the homeland reluctantly letting them leave. But there is one thing you forget, she is Veni's mother, the one who changed him to what he is and that cannot be taken away from her. Veni still has influence on Rosemary even though you are her master does he not? Why would it be any different for Nafretiri Bixia?"

Jacob had matured a bit with his last statement thought Ma because normally he'd say that he outright hated the demon creature itself. "Keep Jiluzix from getting a powerful foothold in us? Ah I must not have understood that it was going to affect more than Rosemary even though she was disconnected..." More like it wasn't really explained to him well as neither of them enjoyed bringing up that subject. And maybe Veni was too upset and injured at the time to understand it fully or be able to explain it well.

"When the niearcim took Rosemary in that other place, my master tried to hold onto her. But she was still pulled away very fast and violently. As a result he was very injured from it though not physically," Ma patted his chest area to indicate where as his eyes shifted downwards. "His qi was disrupted or damaged in a key place. He would have been slightly better off if he let go. This left him vulnerable though he couldn't admit it to anyone and he was also very angry . Master Veni wasn't strong enough for them so you had to help her. I thought father did it to be close to her still and to better protect us since he was vulnerable and that's how I understood it. I did not know he was being infected despite loosing a major connection to her. You 'nipped it in the butt' as they say fast enough that it probably didn't have the chance to trickle down much yet. What would have happened if you had not interfered?"

Ma watched bumps appear on the other's skin as the hairs raised and body twitched...and even after speaking the man got more fearful and started to sweat a little and shudder again Ma noticed. "So... if I understood that correctly... a whole line of vampires, and possibly including someone in a position like Black, would have found themselves following a demon with no adverse opinion on it and possibly adoration for it as I've heard some mages described and even if we didn't live to see that demon we would still find ourselves with it and in the end I am fortunate you were able to fix it? If she wasn't brought home quickly, in a matter of days or even hours with them working to enhance what they just did she wouldn't have wanted to come home?"

Jacob nodded. Ma's body stiffened. He hadn't understood before that that was the reason Jacob, the other, was there. "I am grateful for what you did master... What disturbed you more after stating that?"