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The Rotary Rocket

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:01 am

Ythan II

I wish I knew these things.

I never know what you guys are talking about but I probably should.

Linux is a lot easier now than it was back then, Ythan.
Get a LiveCD burned and just run the liveCD...it won't make any changes to your current system, and you can learn it on the side.

Ubuntu is the easiest...Mint is like Ubuntu, only more elegant and a bit more user friendly to 3rd party and restricted programs.

The steepest curve is compiling from tarballs. Other than that...most of the time there are packages that handle everything for you.

EDIT - I highly do not recommend you use it if you like PC gaming....Yeah, you could use Crossover, or Wine, or PlayOnLinux , or that other program that you have to pay for that adds compatibility (Cedega, I think)....but it takes a lot of trial and error. Unless you like mental frustration and that keeps you going.
Dual booting is the way to go if you want to have the best of both worlds.
Just install Windows first before installing Linux...If you do it other way around...you'll have to recover GRUB...and it's not fun.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:09 am

The Rotary Rocket

So far, so good on Fedora 8.

Although 8 defaulted to the experimental "intel" video driver other than the i810 driver that is still there.
What surprised me is that fuse is already installed and configured, so I can see my NTFS drives already. I guess I've been using CentOS for so long that I got used to configuring for NTFS support...although I bet samba isn't. It's been awhile since I have used this distro.
Still updating this thing, then I'll probably play around with what is here and what isn't.

I know I am going to have to rustle up some 3rd-P repos to get better stuff...at least for an updated version of Transmission, SMplayer, PlayOnLinux, and Pidgin.

That's the one thing I do miss about using SUSE. (Even though it makes you rather lazy) If you can't find packages for what you want, SUSE generally has the "1-click install" meta package community on their website so that you don't have to compile anything. I even found the most recent version of Transmission on there.

I'm almost tempted to change to i810 just to see if I can get the 3d acceleration support for mkv files through SMplayer or VLC. Knowing my luck..It will default to the text only runlevel.

But I'll see after the updates finish.

Ythan II

ITT PM

The Rotary Rocket

Ythan II

ITT PM

A simple "It would have been better if you had used private message for this" would suffice, Ythan.

We all know you're the Vice-Captain. No need to flaunt it with arrogance by being a smartass using such a comment as that.

Zahwomen

DAAAYUUUUM.

Adryk

Ythan II

ITT PM

Wow honestly?

Every ******** Attn: thread could be a PM.

Ythan II

SOMEONE IS SUPER SERIOUS

You sure do read a lot into five letters and a space.

The Rotary Rocket

Ythan II

SOMEONE IS SUPER SERIOUS

You sure do read a lot into five letters and a space.

You're kidding me, right?
A large part of your use of the abbreviation "ITT" has been sarcastic/snide and/or downplaying in nature when responding to another person's thread. I'm sorry, but there is not anything that I am looking at that could be read as me being overanalytical. You do use it in this manner. Perhaps not all the time, but most of the time.

When someone calls you out on it, you pretty much do the same thing as you are doing now. After that, you tend to pull your "butthurt/baww bunny card" to make him/her feel like there was no point to defend themselves/get a say in the first place because you're Ythan...no one can match wits with you.

I realize that this is the internet, and I realize that this is nothing more than the Literate Spam Guild. Although, there is a person behind the words that are typed to the screen and on to the forum. You either forgot about that, or you just plain don't care. People can get offended, and people also would like to have the chance to explain themselves or provide proper defense to stand up for themselves. Which through your snide and sarcastic comments, you cut them short ...or fully undercut them completely. Which proves that you can dish out being harsh/sarcastic/berating to others, but when someone throws it back at you...you can't take it.

You want to be a smartass? *shrugs* By all means, more power to you, it's not like I can stop you...just not in my threads. If there is something wrong with what I am doing, or you think that what you suggest would be better..Use proper tact and extend some courtesy that befits someone with your position of responsibility as Vice-Captain/moderator.

Short version of this explanation - Get over yourself.
P.S. - Yes...I know you'll reply to this. Your prideful belief in thinking you're better than everyone else keeps you from resisting.

The Rotary Rocket

Anyway.

Fedora 8 didn't work after the full update. I guess it took over the intel drivers and ported it with something that it didn't understand..

Went to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. Everything works. Just need to tweak a few things here and there. Finally set up the hardware video drivers and monitor drivers correctly. Some videos work...just not the really high definition ones I have....but it works better than what was entered in before I changed the display configuration.

Thanks for the links to some of the sites to help me out and stuff.

The Jello Experience 2.0

Glad to hear you're up and running. Kind of figured something like that would happen, though - all the major distributions have been updating their drivers recently.

Zahwomen

Once again.
DAAAAYYYYUM.

Felin Greenleaf

So uh...
I'm gonna be kinda on subject here?
I hated Fedora just because of the "AHGAD NO CLOSED-SOURCE ANYTHING ******** YOU FELIN'S 30+ GB OF MP3S"

Ythan II

Except not.

Remove stick from a** for srs. If I cared about you using an attention thread instead of a PM there wouldn't be an attention thread. Come here more frequently and then trust in your judgment of how people herewho you don't know act.

But then you wouldn't have had a place for your long winded anger prose.

The Rotary Rocket

The Jello Experience 2.0

Glad to hear you're up and running. Kind of figured something like that would happen, though - all the major distributions have been updating their drivers recently.

Even funnier...after I got it up and running...the hard drive did the clicking dance of death.
I had to pull a 20GB hard drive from an Iomega HDD enclosure..we will see how long this lasts.

The Rotary Rocket

Felin Greenleaf

So uh...
I'm gonna be kinda on subject here?
I hated Fedora just because of the "AHGAD NO CLOSED-SOURCE ANYTHING ******** YOU FELIN'S 30+ GB OF MP3S"

Actually Felin....if you hit up the3rd party RPMFusion repository and add it to YUM, you'll get the support you want....you'll get the g-streamer good, bad, and ugly packages which will allow playback of mp3's on Rhythmbox/Banshee/whatever jukebox program you use.

Actual real Sun Java is the only problem...you have to play with that to get it to work..Although, OpenJDK/IceTea works good enough.
aaaand...probably installing proprietary graphics drivers are a little more work in Fedora...since Fedora doesn't have something like Envy.

And well Adobe Flash is easy, because it has a YUM installer on the site.
All you'd need is Yum Extender to act like Synaptic and you're good to go.

Those three make up the core of the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu restricted extras package.
Ubuntu just simplifies and compartmentalizes it for you. That's probably the downside to Fedora...if you want restricted extras you have to look and do a little work for it.

In Red Hat's defense....Fedora 10 Cambridge is pretty nice.

Ythan II

I wish I knew these things.

I never know what you guys are talking about but I probably should.

The Rotary Rocket

Ythan II

I wish I knew these things.

I never know what you guys are talking about but I probably should.

PS YOUR MOM

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:10 am

er...

I should try Gentoo out one day.
Not until I understand what Portage is all about.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:04 pm

That was very eloquent.

Xahmen

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