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Taeryyn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:50 pm


Recently, NPR published a list of the top 100 (listener-recommended) sci-fi and fantasy books. I immediately skimmed the list to see how many I’d read, since so many of my favourite books fit into those genres. I’ve only read 13 or so of the books, but there were many, many more on the list that I’ve either wanted to read, or been told that I ought to read. After wondering for a moment about the people who may have read all the titles on the list, it occurred to me that, hey, I think I want to be one of them.

It’s a matter of goals, in a way. I mean, I do have goals. To pay off debt, to travel to several specific places, to go back to school, to learn another language…You get the idea. But these are largely long-term things, things for which I’ll need to work and wait and work some more. Reading all these books, on the other hand, starts paying off immediately. Reading has always been one of my primary hobbies, and the idea of checking off every item on the list adds some extra excitement and challenge to my normally-aimless pastime.

It won’t all be easy and fun. For one thing, this is going to take a lot of time. I’m not a slow reader, but the number “100” isn’t really the grand total. Many of the titles are actually trilogies or longer series of books; the first “20” is actually closer to 60. Then there’s the fact that in order to do this, I’m going to have to slog through books that I might not actually enjoy. (Happy to be done with the Silmarillion... Although, I’m not sure it counts, since I don’t remember any of it. I’ll deal with that later.)

Overall, though, I think it will be a good experience. Some of the books are on the list because they’re fun to read, but others are critically acclaimed, presumably for good reason. I strongly believe that books can expand your mind, so surely reading so many will be beneficial, even if it’s only for fun.

So, here’s the list as it stands right now. I have access to all of the books on the list, it’s now just a matter of getting started. Rather than read them in descending (or ascending) order, I plan on using a random number generator to decide which book I’ll read. Good luck to me, I guess. The bolded-italicised titles are the books I’ve already read.


1. The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, by J.R.R. Tolkien
2. The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy, by Douglas Adams
3. Ender’s Game, by Orson Scott Card
4. The Dune Chronicles, by Frank Herbert
5. A Song Of Ice And Fire Series, by George R. R. Martin
6. 1984, by George Orwell
7. Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
8. The Foundation Trilogy, by Isaac Asimov
9. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
10. American Gods, by Neil Gaiman
11. The Princess Bride, by William Goldman
12. The Wheel Of Time Series, by Robert Jordan
13. Animal Farm, by George Orwell
14. Neuromancer, by William Gibson
15. Watchmen, by Alan Moore
16. I, Robot, by Isaac Asimov
17. Stranger In A Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein
18. The Kingkiller Chronicles, by Patrick Rothfuss
19. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
20. Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley
21. Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?, by Philip K. d**k
22. The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood
23. The Dark Tower Series, by Stephen King
24. 2001: A Space Odyssey, by Arthur C. Clarke
25. The Stand, by Stephen King
26. Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson
27. The Martian Chronicles, by Ray Bradbury
28. Cat’s Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut
29. The Sandman Series, by Neil Gaiman
30. A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess
31. Starship Troopers, by Robert Heinlein
32. Watership Down, by Richard Adams
33. Dragonflight, by Anne McCaffrey
34. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, by Robert Heinlein
35. A Canticle For Leibowitz, by Walter M. Miller
36. The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells
37. 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, by Jules Verne
38. Flowers For Algernon, by Daniel Keys
39. The War Of The Worlds, by H.G. Wells
40. The Chronicles Of Amber, by Roger Zelazny
41. The Belgariad, by David Eddings
42. The Mists Of Avalon, by Marion Zimmer Bradley
43. The Mistborn Series, by Brandon Sanderson
44. Ringworld, by Larry Niven
45. The Left Hand Of Darkness, by Ursula K. LeGuin
46. The Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkien
47. The Once And Future King, by T.H. White
48. Neverwhere, by Neil Gaiman
49. Childhood’s End, by Arthur C. Clarke
50. Contact, by Carl Sagan
51. The Hyperion Cantos, by Dan Simmons
52. Stardust, by Neil Gaiman
53. Cryptonomicon, by Neal Stephenson
54. World War Z, by Max Brooks
55. The Last Unicorn, by Peter S. Beagle
56. The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman
57. Small Gods, by Terry Pratchett
58. The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever, by Stephen R. Donaldson
59. The Vorkosigan Saga, by Lois McMaster Bujold
60. Going Postal, by Terry Pratchett
61. The Mote In God’s Eye, by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
62. The Sword Of Truth, by Terry Goodkind
63. The Road, by Cormac McCarthy
64. Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, by Susanna Clarke
65. I Am Legend, by Richard Matheson
66. The Riftwar Saga, by Raymond E. Feist
67. The Shannara Trilogy, by Terry Brooks
68. The Conan The Barbarian Series, by R.E. Howard
69. The Farseer Trilogy, by Robin Hobb
70. The Time Traveler’s Wife, by Audrey Niffenegger
71. The Way Of Kings, by Brandon Sanderson
72. A Journey To The Center Of The Earth, by Jules Verne
73. The Legend Of Drizzt Series, by R.A. Salvatore
74. Old Man’s War, by John Scalzi
75. The Diamond Age, by Neil Stephenson
76. Rendezvous With Rama, by Arthur C. Clarke
77. The Kushiel’s Legacy Series, by Jacqueline Carey
78. The Dispossessed, by Ursula K. LeGuin
79. Something Wicked This Way Comes, by Ray Bradbury
80. Wicked, by Gregory Maguire
81. The Malazan Book Of The Fallen Series, by Steven Erikson
82. The Eyre Affair, by Jasper Fforde
83. The Culture Series, by Iain M. Banks
84. The Crystal Cave, by Mary Stewart
85. Anathem, by Neal Stephenson
86. The Codex Alera Series, by Jim Butcher
87. The Book Of The New Sun, by Gene Wolfe
88. The Thrawn Trilogy, by Timothy Zahn
89. The Outlander Series, by Diana Gabaldan
90. The Elric Saga, by Michael Moorcock
91. The Illustrated Man, by Ray Bradbury
92. Sunshine, by Robin McKinley
93. A Fire Upon The Deep, by Vernor Vinge
94. The Caves Of Steel, by Isaac Asimov
95. The Mars Trilogy, by Kim Stanley Robinson
96. Lucifer’s Hammer, by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
97. Doomsday Book, by Connie Willis
98. Perdido Street Station, by China Mieville
99. The Xanth Series, by Piers Anthony
100. The Space Trilogy, by C.S. Lewis
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:03 pm


Already Read It: The Lord of the Ring & The Silmarillion

Oh, Tolkien. Love you or loathe you, everyone knows of you.

One of my early memories from childhood actually consists of seeing the Lord of the Rings trilogy over and over on our bookshelf at home, and wondering what it was about. Really early on, I think I had this vague impression that it was a "grown-up" book, and had something to do with religion. (The only time I'd heard "lord" at that point was at church.)
The boxed set was black, with writing in a sort of flowy gold-coloured script. I think my father picked it up some time in the 70s.

Later, in elementary school, I encountered Tolkien again as we were learning how to read and draw maps. One of the exercises required us to look at a map of a part of Middle-earth and answer questions. I didn't know what "orcs" were, and I don't recall the teacher giving us any details, but I finally suspected that maybe the trilogy wasn't biblical at all. Instantly, it was more interesting to me.

Although I'm not sure when I actually sat down and read them, it was definitely some time in my early teens. I was initially pretty put off by the sheer wordiness, (I guess, in a way, I still am. Hah.) and gave up part way through the Fellowship of the Ring. But I was compelled to give it another go after my little brother finished not only the Lord of the Rings, but the Hobbit AND the Silmarillion. It was bad enough that he could now say he'd read it first; there was no way I would be the only one of us who hadn't read it.

I wish I could say I really liked the story of Frodo and the companions. I didn't dislike the story, and I still feel a real sense of awe when I think about this whole complete world, created by a single person. But I don't know if I'd ever read it again. There were times when it felt like I'd read the same paragraph 10 times without absorbing a thing, and unlike some other books that I just can't put down, there were many times when I had to force myself to keep on reading.

I really enjoyed the movie adaptations; the pages upon pages of description about the trees and the mountains and the countryside made for a beautiful, visually stunning film. The battle scenes, already epic in text, were incredible on the screen. Despite this, though, I'm glad I read the books. At some point, I think I ought to reread them. I feel like my impatience and lack of attention span deprived me of the real experience. (Or, who know, maybe my expectations are just realllly high because of the way everyone salivates over the LOTR? Maybe there was nothing wrong with my initial impression? It remains to be seen.)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:12 am


I've seen the movie for Watership Down. It's pretty violent for an animated film.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:23 pm


I haven't ever seen it. I have seen the movie adaptations of both I, Robot and I Am Legend, and they pretty much have me convinced that Will Smith needs to stay the ******** away from books-turned-movies. :/

The Hitchhiker's Guide movie wasn't bad at all, although a lot of the funniest parts of the book don't really translate to film. The actors did a great job with the material, though.

Although it's not a movie, I am in love with the TV adaptation of Game of Thrones. <3

I haven't seen Watchmen, but I might watch it after I read the graphic novel.

Blade Runner is based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". Personally, I think the book title is more interesting, but I've never seen the movie.

I've seen both StarShip Troopers and The War of the Worlds, and wasn't really a fan, but it's been a long time.

The StarDust movie was pretty good. I especially liked Robert DeNiro's take on the captain. xD

I may be one of the only people born in the 80s who hasn't seen Princess Bride. I'm a fan of Mandy Patikin, though, so I'll get around to it eventually.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:09 pm


Thank you for posting this! I'm a big fan of sci-fis and fantasies, and I've read or heard of a lot of those books. For example, I'm currently reading The Hobbit. So far I'm about a hundred pages into it.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:31 pm


Uh, is number 14 supposed to be Necromancer?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:42 am


I read a few of these in college (I actually took a class on Science Fiction!):

Neuromancer (It isn't supposed to be necromancer, BTW, the title is correct).
The Foundation Series (up through The Second Foundation)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
The Left Hand of Darkness

I've also read some of The Lord of the Rings series (only part of the first book, though), Flowers for Algernon, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Frankenstein, and part of Slaughterhouse 5 (Read most of it for a class, but I was so overloaded I didn't have time to finish it, and hope to come back at some point in the future). As nerdy as this is, I have a long list of books to read that I'm constantly working on (around 50 right now), and I want to say thanks because I'll probably add some of these (a few are already on there).
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:53 am


Taeryyn
I haven't ever seen it. I have seen the movie adaptations of both I, Robot and I Am Legend, and they pretty much have me convinced that Will Smith needs to stay the ******** away from books-turned-movies. :/

The Hitchhiker's Guide movie wasn't bad at all, although a lot of the funniest parts of the book don't really translate to film. The actors did a great job with the material, though.

Although it's not a movie, I am in love with the TV adaptation of Game of Thrones. <3

I haven't seen Watchmen, but I might watch it after I read the graphic novel.

Blade Runner is based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". Personally, I think the book title is more interesting, but I've never seen the movie.

I've seen both StarShip Troopers and The War of the Worlds, and wasn't really a fan, but it's been a long time.

The StarDust movie was pretty good. I especially liked Robert DeNiro's take on the captain. xD

I may be one of the only people born in the 80s who hasn't seen Princess Bride. I'm a fan of Mandy Patikin, though, so I'll get around to it eventually.


oh my god!!!! you definiteyl gotta watch Watchmen! it's awesome!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:48 pm


Sunshine Peach-Heart
Thank you for posting this! I'm a big fan of sci-fis and fantasies, and I've read or heard of a lot of those books. For example, I'm currently reading The Hobbit. So far I'm about a hundred pages into it.

I enjoyed The Hobbit more than I did the Lord of the Rings, but at the same time, I've never really felt much affection for Bilbo. I didn't dislike the character or anything, I just never felt much of a connection, the way I do with some characters in books. smile


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Uh, is number 14 supposed to be Necromancer?

Neuromancer by William Gibson



bollier
I read a few of these in college (I actually took a class on Science Fiction!):

Neuromancer (It isn't supposed to be necromancer, BTW, the title is correct).
The Foundation Series (up through The Second Foundation)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
The Left Hand of Darkness

I've also read some of The Lord of the Rings series (only part of the first book, though), Flowers for Algernon, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Frankenstein, and part of Slaughterhouse 5 (Read most of it for a class, but I was so overloaded I didn't have time to finish it, and hope to come back at some point in the future). As nerdy as this is, I have a long list of books to read that I'm constantly working on (around 50 right now), and I want to say thanks because I'll probably add some of these (a few are already on there).


I really haven't read much sci-fi, and have never really known where to start. I would imagine an entire class on the genre would be really interesting! You could probably dedicate entire classes just to some of the books on the list.

And yeah, some of these books have been on my "I-really-should-read-that" list for a long while, but kept getting pushed to the back of the list. x3



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oh my god!!!! you definiteyl gotta watch Watchmen! it's awesome!
I've heard both good and bad things about the film adaptation. One of my friends was absolutely obsessed with Rorschach, for example, while another couldn't stop raving about how much better the graphic novel was.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:52 pm


Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

I’m not sure we ever established that androids even technically dream, or even sleep. (I could have just missed it; I started reading pretty early this morning, hah.) They certainly seem to have wants and maybe even needs.

If someone asked me, what’s the difference between an android and a human, my initial response would be, “Humans are organic; androids are machines.”

But what if androids were made from flesh? I mean, humans are technically machines, too. We can restart a heart with electricity, or stop it. We can make humans in a lab environment, although not fully-grown humans.

What if the androids are capable of experiencing emotions? Then what? It wasn’t something I’d really thought about before reading this, and I doubt I would have been able to come up with an answer.

The idea that’s presented in the book, though, is that humans are capable of empathy, whereas artificial life is not. That’s actually one of the only ways left, in this burned-out future, to tell the difference between humans and “andys”.

Makes sense. But what about humans who lack empathy? Sociopaths, for example. Are they inhuman? I lived with a girl that I would swear was a legit sociopath. She was capable of emotion, but empathy really seemed beyond her. She was always friendly to me, but she hurt so many people without ever caring. It amused her to see other people cry or get angry. It took me a while to figure out what exactly was so strange about her. Lots of people are mean, but it eventually occurred to me that most people who do cruel things do so out of anger or spite or in retaliation for something. This girl was usually perfectly pleasant to me, was perfectly functional in her day-to-day life, and also perfectly willing to cause pain to people or creatures for her own amusement, provided she wouldn’t face any negative consequences.

I certainly don’t have any medical training, so it’s probably unfair for me to insist that she lacks any sort of conscience or sense of empathy. That said, while I was reading about one of the androids slowly decapitating a spider for fun, I was immediately reminded of my former roommate. She’s the closest thing to an “andy” that I’ve ever met.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the book. It wasn’t a long or difficult read, although the questions it raises are both difficult and probably over my head. The obsession with owning animals seemed strange at first, but considering the setting, it makes sense. It’s hard to imagine that humanity could endure the planetary conditions when the vast, vast majority of other animals could not. But, I guess it’s human nature to desire “status items”, and if animals really did die out, I can easily see how they’d become the most sought-after luxury good. There’s also empathy playing a part, I suppose, but I’m not really sure how to phrase what I mean. Going back to the idea about sociopaths…isn’t that usually how we can tell something is wrong with someone? When they hurt animals with no feelings of guilt? If that’s the case, I wonder where the line is, because most people have no trouble at all killing bugs. If mosquitos suddenly became endangered, would we stop swatting them?

I really hope that we, as a species, can sort out our issues before things get that bad. :s

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:34 pm


Brave New World

You know, I’m only done my second book since starting this whole thing, and I’m quite possibly more worried about the future than ever. razz Who’d have thought a society where everyone is happy could be so frightening and depressing?

I’ve heard about this book many times, but had never really planned on reading it. I’m not sure why, but I was under the impression that it was a really tough, dry, difficult read. (I’m pretty sure I was confusing it with another book, but the name is escaping me at the moment. ) Fortunately, that wasn’t the case at all. The pace of the book is snappy right from the beginning, and Huxley clearly had a very, very detailed vision of this future society.

Even though (almost) everyone is happy, content, and antiseptically clean, I found the whole thing had a distinctly creepy edge to it. Everyone belongs to everyone, and everyone’s life (and potential) is determined before they are born—or, “decanted”, since embryos are created and developed in a sort of factory setting. Individuality is a bad thing, and I find the idea of a group of 90-odd identical humans (who’ve gone through intense conditioning their entire lives) to be downright eerie.

I can’t help but feel bad for the characters who just don’t fit in, which I’m sure is the point. The book certainly wouldn’t be interesting if there were no conflict.

Anyway, the ending was abrupt, but well-done. It ended with a kick, and it left an impression. In some ways I was reminded of The Handmaid’s Tale, but this story didn’t leave me disturbed. Instead, I was just slightly surprised, a little bit sad, but mostly just happy that it turned out to be such an interesting book.
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