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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:15 pm
So, saw this article on a Facebook post: http://time4dogs.blogspot.com/2011/09/huffington-post-puppet-for-animal.html?spref=fb
What do you think? I responded to the article with my opinion on the picking and choosing of facts they used, but they have yet to approve it gonk
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:08 pm
I have to raise my eyebrows at their claims that mandatory spay and neuter raises the unwanted pet population, that makes no sense. There is some truth to the health risks though, in many cases, you should wait until the animal is fully grown before doing so, as this can reduce the risks of certain cancers and other diseases/growth issues. So you really have to ask yourself what is more important, and if you'll be able to keep your intact animal away from other intact animals. It's a big mess, if you ask me, lol. People should just be more responsible with their animals and we would never have to have the speuter debate.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:44 pm
I think the article is implying that people rather than pay to get their pets spayed and neutered they take them to shelters.
Personally I do think they should wait for adult age before spaying and neutering, and I have told my sister to wait until he was full sized before getting her great dane neutered.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:54 am
I lost track somewhere.
Neutering and spraying causes a longer lifespan.If they don't get neutered/sprayed, they can get cancer, etc, etc.
There are pro's/con's from both sides.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:47 am
well yes there are some health risks to getting an animal fixed. if your able to control your animal and make sure they dont breed and can handle that animal intat then sure, opt out of a spay neuter. though lets face it, the average person isnt up to this task. i dont want to deal with my boy cat spraying or my lady cat and dog going into heat. plus when they dont have breeding on the mind they are more able to listen to me and overall be calmer animals
im not sure what age my lady cat got spayed since she was spayed while she was still a stray, and my male got fixed when he was a kitten along with his declawing. my dog is the only one i know was almost a year old before she was fixed and thats becasue the spca spayed her as soon as they got her for the first time.
though both my lady cat and dog have been spayed twice. the cat becasue i didnt know she had been spayed and the dog got spayed both times she ended up at the spca because someone forgot to read her paperwork
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:23 am
I honestly think the benefits outweigh the risks, especially with females, because so many end up with cancer if they aren't spayed, I read that to spay a female cat before her first heat, reduces her risk of breast cancer a whopping 90% and that is a LOT.
Also I find neutered males to be more happy most of the time, as they aren't sexually frustrated, though I have known a few males that were intact and happy, it seems more of a risk due to chances of running off, (75% of road kill dogs are un-neutered males) and being aggressive, (I heard that 80% of dog bites were from un-neutered males) the dog that we finally talked the owners into neutering, who lives with us, he is MUCH happier now than before he was neutered, and he is much better with the other dogs, we can even let the little dog in the same room, and he doesn't bother him anymore.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:54 am
Aha! Finally. Here was my response: Quote: While I don't support the mandatory spay/neuter law, the other details of this article frustrate me. I like that you linked to facts and figures; however, like most facts and figures, are taken slightly out of context. In your quote about the increased risk of cancer, hip dysplasia, and others in spayed and neutered pets from the AVMA, the same article also quotes: "Although spay/neuter is an important part of effective population control programs, and may benefit individual dogs and cats if performed at the appropriate time, whether and when to spay/neuter specific animals requires the application of science and professional judgment to ensure the best outcome for veterinary patients and their owners. Prevention of unexpected litters; reduced incidences of some cancers and reproductive diseases; and prevention and amelioration of certain undesirable behaviors have been documented as benefits to spaying/neutering dogs and cats." Further, in the study about female rottweilers living longer, the same article also quotes: "Does Dr. Waters recommend that every dog owner delay their pet's ovariohysterectomy? Not at all. In fact, he cautioned against overgeneralizing the study findings, saying much more research is needed." Further research also needs to be done to determine if these health problems are purely from spay/neuter surgery or because of poor diet in commercial kibble that can lead to obesity, kidney failure, and cancers. I also argue about a shortage of pets in the US. Having been to many high kill and no-kill shelters with huge waiting lists, I can indeed tell you that there is no shortage of pets, at least in the Midwest. Many people from New England or other supposedly under-supplied states can easily "import" pets from other parts of the US with overflowing animal shelters. Also, your link to the New England conference leads me to a general page with no information on the kitten shortage article. Without reading what the topic covered, I can generally take it with a grain of salt. To be clear, I strongly do not support PETA in any way as they're all a bunch of hypocrites. I also agree with a previous commenter that education is the way for spaying and neutering, as should all medical decisions for your pets. Their response was pretty much reiterating the article D: And yeah, there are totally more benefits to spaying and neutering than negatives. I agree that pets shouldn't be spayed or neutered at a later age, but they should be at some point unless you're planning on breeding, obviously. If a family wants to show their kids the miracle of birth, call a local shelter to see if there are any pregnant cats or dogs and see if you can schedule an appointment to witness the birth or foster the animal at home until birth instead of impregnating your own cat. I'm sure the shelter would be happy to oblige.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:33 pm
As with ANY surgical procedure there are risks. But these are extremely minimal. The animals who die during routine surgeries do so because of hidden illnesses that would have most likely caused them issues even without this surgery.
Now even for the healthy pet there's pro's and cons. The longer you wait the MORE the chance of cancer. If you do it too soon, it can affect development. (Most vets don't know or won't admit that.) It can also cause incontinence in dogs.
Personally I think the benefits FAR outweigh the risks. vaccines carry risks as well and we make rabies mandatory. I'm sure we could manage to put some kind of laws in place. I'm so sick of so many people calling me about their homless cat/kittens and what to do with them, and then I run into someone who just refuses to spay their cat and let's them have kittens constantly cause they can't be bothered to spay. I really wish those people would be forced to see the result of their inactions. If you're that stupid don't keep opposite sex pets together.
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