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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:51 am
When in school, did you guys stand for the pledge?
Like, were you forced or did you have a personal choice.
And if you could choose, did you stay seated?
This is just an odd question.
In high school, I chose not to stand and say the pledge (personal reasons, please don't ask).
But now that I'm a teacher, I have to "set the example" for my kids and stand and say it.
(Which is awkward for me, since I haven't done it in 6 or 7 years).
But what if my kids wanted to make the same decision that I once made? I'd have to support them either way.
So, just curious.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:55 am
We had the choice, though is was generally frowned upon.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:14 am
B-ran The Cat About Town We had the choice, though is was generally frowned upon. This. I stopped standing in... 5th grade, I think? Some teachers would try to get you in trouble for it, but thankfully it didn't work.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:02 am
I always stood up and put my hand over my heart because it was elementary school and I did what I was told and didn't think much about it.
Honestly, I can't remember if we did the pledge in middle or high school.
That last statement was false. I just remembered several instances of refusing to say 'Under God' outloud in high school because those were my super uber anti-religion days.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:16 am
I had a teacher in the 7th grade yell at a foreign exchange student for not standing.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:56 pm
A. I thought you were from the U.S. and my mind ust got blown
B. We only did the pledge til like 4th grade and then I changed schools and they didn't do it and it never happened again. I was too young to really think about it at the time so I always did it. I wouldn't now.
I do NOT think you should have to do it because you're a teacher, that's actually really shitty.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:44 pm
I think we always had to stand. In junior high and high school, our teachers would tell us that we didn't have to say it, we just had to stand up and look at the flag. (In 9th grade I refused to say it because that's when "under God" got added in.)
Trying to make a room full of kindergartners stand for the pledge is a trial, but they're supposed to. And I'm standing anyway, plus I have to say it so they can hear it. We say the pledge of allegiance and the Texas pledge, plus we have a school pledge.
@Mary- she is from America, I think she's just asking to see what people in other places had to do.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:00 pm
I am from the U.S. I just didn't know how else to word the topic. =P
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:32 pm
Undecidability I think we always had to stand. In junior high and high school, our teachers would tell us that we didn't have to say it, we just had to stand up and look at the flag. (In 9th grade I refused to say it because that's when "under God" got added in.) Trying to make a room full of kindergartners stand for the pledge is a trial, but they're supposed to. And I'm standing anyway, plus I have to say it so they can hear it. We say the pledge of allegiance and the Texas pledge, plus we have a school pledge. @Mary- she is from America, I think she's just asking to see what people in other places had to do. I forgot about the Texas pledge. When I moved there the kids were still standing then reciting another pledge and I was seriously confused and hated Texas more.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:03 pm
I would stand for the respect of the country, but refused to recite. I was chastised when I wouldn't recite it, but I would tell my teachers the same basic principle: This country was founded on the freedoms to choose what to believe in, and the loyalties we chose. If I was forced pledge my loyalties to a country in which I had no control, I would be in direct opposition of the very freedoms in which it stood. Additionally, the pledge required the submission to the recognition of a god, which is an abomination of my personal freedom to choose what I believed in. Very few teachers required it of me after I explained the circumstances in which it violated it's own representation. As far as the Texas pledge: I actually loved my state and had no problem pledging to it. It represented home, and I would honor it's pledge as I would honor a tribal tribute. HOWEVER, as of 2007, the wording has been changed to include "one state under God", and I would now refuse to recite it based on the forced introduction of belief.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:29 pm
Back in the day when I was a kid (you know during the civil war and all) we were too stupid to know we had a choice. We just did it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:25 pm
Every single morning we were supposed to say the pledge.
Elementary School everyone did it.
Middle School I don't really remember. I think some times I stayed seated because I saw other people were.
High School I found out I had a choice and chose to sit out regularly. No repercussions for this choice.
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:30 am
The area I went to school in (and once again live in) is full of 'Murica lovin', flag-wavin' bible thumpers.
You tended to stand and lipsync if you didn't want to get into fights every day.
I developed a somewhat psychotic reputation in high school mostly because I rarely stood for the pledge when I bothered to show up. I got into a lot of fights.
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:17 am
marzipancakes A. I thought you were from the U.S. and my mind ust got blown
B. We only did the pledge til like 4th grade and then I changed schools and they didn't do it and it never happened again. I was too young to really think about it at the time so I always did it. I wouldn't now. I do NOT think you should have to do it because you're a teacher, that's actually really shitty. That. Except I didn't change schools we just didn't do it in the 5th grade...that's kinda when people started getting mad about the "under God' thing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:45 am
Oh haha.
I mean for me it's not only the god crap but also "liberty and justice for all." i'm like uhhh, when?
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