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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:15 am
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The Bible does not say that all spirits are demons, that is correct. It doesn't, but we can draw conclusions from what it does say about contacting spirits, and perhaps the nature of the spirits that are contacted based on result. Isaiah says: "Should not people inquire of God? "Should they inquire the dead on behalf of the living"? Should we as Christians go to some other source and inquire about the questions we have about the afterlife? If a spirit answers, on whose behalf is it answering?
We learn in Deuteronomy 18:10-12 that those who inquires of the dead, and practices divination does something that is an abomination to God. We learn in 1 Chronicles that king Saul died because he consulted a medium. It was a breach of faith. He no longer had faith in God. Can we not apply this to us, if we decided to consult mediums, or spirits? If no, why not?
We read in 1 Timothy 4:1 that in the later times, often translated as the latst days, people will listen to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.
There are no verses to draw from that I am aware of that urge people to go to spirits for consultations, or protection, but there are verses that indicate this is an abomination to the Lord, and that people who do, pollute themselves. Based on the verses that we have about spirits that people can contact through mediums or necromancy, these spirits seem to operate in opposition to God.
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:25 am
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I don't doubt for a second that those who are mediums or spend time trying to learn how communicate with the spirit world believe that these spirits are what they believe them to be, or what the spirits give the impression of being - benign. To Christians, Christ and the Bible is the standard of truth, and if these spirit does not measure up to the truth we have to conclude that they are deceiving spirits, and malevolent, no matter how many true things about the past, about dead relatives or you they reveal, or how friendly they give they impression of being. If you leave out the most important Truth, the one that is essential to your understanding, your well-being and future, then it is still a lie; a lie of omission. If you skew your words just enough, that people can't see Jesus, you are not doing God's work, but the work of some other fellow.
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:20 am
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Garland-Green The Bible does not say that all spirits are demons, that is correct. It doesn't, but we can draw conclusions from what it does say about contacting spirits, and perhaps the nature of the spirits that are contacted based on result. Isaiah says: "Should not people inquire of God? "Should they inquire the dead on behalf of the living"? Should we as Christians go to some other source and inquire about the questions we have about the afterlife? If a spirit answers, on whose behalf is it answering? We learn in Deuteronomy 18:10-12 that those who inquires of the dead, and practices divination does something that is an abomination to God. We learn in 1 Chronicles that king Saul died because he consulted a medium. It was a breach of faith. He no longer had faith in God. Can we not apply this to us, if we decided to consult mediums, or spirits? If no, why not? We read in 1 Timothy 4:1 that in the later times, often translated as the latst days, people will listen to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons. There are no verses to draw from that I am aware of that urge people to go to spirits for consultations, or protection, but there are verses that indicate this is an abomination to the Lord, and that people who do, pollute themselves. Based on the verses that we have about spirits that people can contact through mediums or necromancy, these spirits seem to operate in opposition to God.
I totally agree with you...
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:56 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:20 pm
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Spirit Reborn Acenintendo I have never heard of a place in the Bible that says all spirits are demons it is something assumed Yes, I have to agree with the Captain's recent posts. As a Christian who regards the Bible as truth, I have nothing against His Word. I guess i would have to say there are different types of magick. But since it says all spells, i cannot dispute it us against the Bible. However it does not make the spirits evil. EVEN if it is evil to contact them. It does not make what u are contacting evil.
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:05 pm
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Acenintendo Spirit Reborn Acenintendo I have never heard of a place in the Bible that says all spirits are demons it is something assumed Yes, I have to agree with the Captain's recent posts. As a Christian who regards the Bible as truth, I have nothing against His Word. I guess i would have to say there are different types of magick. But since it says all spells, i cannot dispute it us against the Bible. However it does not make the spirits evil. EVEN if it is evil to contact them. It does not make what u are contacting evil. Let us consider that for a moment. If the spirits are open to communication with you they are violating God's will. If they are not rebuking you for attempting to contact them, or by being open to contact, they are allowing you to do something that is polluting you in the eyes of God. They are spirit, and God is spirit, they would not be ignorant of God's will. So they are choosing to disobey, and engage us humans. They are evil, for leading people astray, for omitting important information that is essential for those who decide to contact spirits to know. If you cause someone to sin, you are not good. According to 2 Corinthians 11:14-15, demons masquerade as “angels of light” and as “servants of righteousness.
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:48 pm
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