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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:00 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:11 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:45 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:11 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:30 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:58 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:51 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:17 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:42 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:04 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:20 am
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Mrs_Black_Bear Shenyu Radical Ed: "If you are not ready for a child, don't have sex. That is YOUR choice."
Me: "Well, that would be so easy, if sex was just for making babies. But sex is more than this. It's getting close to the person that is (hopefully) the most important one to you. It is giving your body as a personal gift. But I think you have the possibility to have sex and prevent yourself from becoming pregnant. But what if that does not work because of whatever? Your pill does not have effect and the condom has a hole. I think this would be a kind of complicated thing. On the one hand you do not have a tragic situation like rape or something. On the other hand no one can say that you did not act responsible because you really tried."
RadicalEd: "I never said it was easy. I just said it was your choice. I know first hand how difficult it is."But don't you think it is kind of a unrealistic solution for that problem? I mean. It's not REALLY a choice. If you are in a relationship for years without sex, your partner might leave you. And for a good reason I would say. I don't mean that you have to have sex by command, but I think it is normal that you have sex SOMETIMES. I mean we are no youngsters anymore. And as I said there are a lot of ways to prevent pregnancy. But you can never be sure per 100%. So I don't think you should be punished just because you have been trying, but you lost. Anyway. What still bothers me is that I think that an unrealistic solution is not really a solution... BTW Sorry for that strange thing up above, but I don't have a clue how to quote with that nice "... wrote"-stuff^^ hmm I disagree about your loved one leaving you if you refuse to have sex with them, considering my husband and I have known each other for five years and dated four of those, and have only been married for about three months. I did not and would not have sex with him untill our wedding night and he did not leave me.
But Radical Ed is saying if you're not ready to have a child then you shouldn't have sex. Marriage isn't a part of this really. Suppose you get married, but don't feel you're ready for a baby yet. 10 sexless years after marriage later, most men would of left by then.
My opinion on this is the same as a few others here. Pro-choice - it means the woman gets to CHOOSE if she wants to or not, it does not mean that everyone has to have an abortion if they do not want the child. If a person believes in God, then it's really between them and God, not the government or anyone else.
Else we will be punishing the mother AND the child. There are NOT enough parents who adopt to take all of the children in the adoption system as it is, and while there may be good foster homes, there are also plenty of bad ones.
Really "Pro-Choice" means everyone gets to decide and act on their own beliefs, whether they believe in abortion or not. "Pro-life" (in the sense that Pro-lifers want to make abortion illegal) means that the government regulated a very personal choice based on views that are not universal.
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High-functioning Cutesmasher
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:30 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:58 am
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