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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:47 am
You know when someone kills someone else...
In some countries they have to be killed for killing that person.
And in other countries they don't have a death penalty because they feel that two wrongs don't make a right and sometimes the innocent one gets killed.
Which do you believe in?
Death Penalty or No Death Penalty?
Debate.
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:26 am
I personally don't approve of the death penalty. By giving someone the death penalty it makes the legal system no better than the killer. Know what I mean?
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:34 pm
True.
But if you can kill someone and just go to jail for a couple of years...
Then they let you out because the jails are over fulled and you go kill someone else? No exactly right.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:24 am
That's true. I haven't thought of it like that. So I guess by giving a murderer the death penalty, it's to protect anyone else from getting killed.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:22 pm
I watched his wildest dreams come true, not one of them involving you..
Here is what I think of death penalties:
"Why do people kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?"
I can see what you mean about someone going to prison for about two years and all of that wonderful stuff.
But they do still have their criminal record and all that great info if they needed to find that person again.
So I guess it is just on your own point of views.
Just watch my wildest dreams come true, not one of them involving..
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:14 am
I don't believe the death penalty is right. Its not just the two wrongs dont make a right thing, or even the wrong person getting killed when there not guilty thing - I think dying is too light a punishment.
I know that sounds a bit odd, but think of it like this; you kill someone and get killed yourself. Its over. But if your put in prison for the rest of your natural life, rotting away staring at the same 4 walls, all individuality and rights taken away from you, thats got to be worse. Mental pains always worse than physical pain, especially if it lasts for years on end.
Of course that all falls down when prisoners are released after 5 year...
Plus, think of the murderers family. Its not thier fault thier son or daughter did what they did. No parent should have to bury thier child, no matter what they did.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:53 pm
I think that if they're going to be in jail for the rest of their life, or for a very long time, then that person should have the option of the death penalty. They get to decide if they want to die. Like assisted suicide basically. But I don't think the state/country should decide whether they should live or die.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:40 pm
I disagree with use of the death penalty. While it's possible to let a wrongfully-convicted person go free if they're simply in prison, such a thing can't be done with the death penalty. It's also more expensive to use the death penalty, and there's a disproportionate number of blacks on Death Row.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:04 pm
This question has come up a lot of times...and honestly im in the middle but im a bit pro death penalty. Some people deserve to die. some people are so dangerous that if they ever escape many people would be in danger. and believe it or not some criminals enjoy being in jail. the death penalty scare people and prevents them from doing a horrific crime. because one of the most common fear is dying. when that fear is gone. they would do whatever they wish. and yes i know there are many reasons why death penalty shouldn't be used but these are just a few of my reasons why it should. and forgive me if i make no sense im really sleepy.
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:12 pm
I think it depends on the situation. Sometimes the wrong person gets the death penalty and the person that really committed the crime gets away with it. If their going to do the death penalty they should definitely make 100% sure that it's the right person they're putting to death.
If they're not going to put a murderer or rapist to death then they should put them in jail for THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. None of that "You are going to jail for life. 20 years." No, it should be until the rot and die in their jail cell. But I guess in some ways that is a death penalty, but I sort of agree with "an eye for an eye". That's just my opinion though.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:26 pm
a murderer can escape from jail.that's totally putting everyone at risk. Wouldn't you rather have the murderer dead than there be a possibility of them coming and hurting someone else. On the other hand maybe you could just keep them in there for life. That would probably make them go insane but at least nobody else would be at risk or the murderers wrath
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:02 pm
cherryvans a murderer can escape from jail.that's totally putting everyone at risk. Wouldn't you rather have the murderer dead than there be a possibility of them coming and hurting someone else. On the other hand maybe you could just keep them in there for life. That would probably make them go insane but at least nobody else would be at risk or the murderers wrath "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin While I understand and agree that criminals should have a punishment for their crimes, not treating them as humans and completely ignoring their rights is not the way to do it.
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:37 pm
The death penalty is a hard thing to tackle. I'm not sure where I stand. But here are a few things to ponder
Negative: the death penalty costs more than 10 years of housing an inn-mate
Negative: it is killing
Negative: we're one of the few countries left that have it
Negative: the person's family
Positive:how do you explain that he's allowed to be 'reformed' to the victims family?
Positive: he will never be able to be released and kill again
Positive: prison makes criminals better criminals, so this'll stop it
I personally don't like that more is being spent on prisons than school in the US.
Also, I live in a prison town, Statesville used to be self sufficent: it had a farm, and industry, and now the inn mates do nada but work out, watch tv, think of schemes and suck taxpayers money. I think that no matter what level of security, they should be put to work.
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:46 pm
funny I was just talking about this one earlier and then I stumble on this. First of when it comes from punishments for crimes, I guess I'm kinda harsh in my opinions. I don't really agree with the death penaty because I don't think it's harsh enough. I think criminal punishment should work more like, somebody did something, so we come up with a punishment to fit that specific crime. I tend to lean towards some middle-east/ tribal-area type punishments. Not that all are still in effect today but I think they should be. Basically I think that if you do something seriously bad you should get your butt whopped for it.
For example:
Crime: someone perposely shoots and kills another person.
Punishment: Shoot them in a not vital area, let them suffer for a moment, then save their life and stick em in jail, so they can think about what they did and know how it feels.
If someone repeatedly steals (on a large scale, I'm not this harsh over a kid stealing a soda or something) then hell yeah, hack off the hand they stole it with, and then stick them in jail so they can think on it for a while. Maybe they'll learn something.
Someone drowns thier kids? (happened once here) Then hold them under water until they almost drown, and revive them and repeat for every child and then stick thier butt in jail so they can think about it.
A guy rapes a girl? Tribal solution: We cut off both his hands, and his manhood, if you catch my meaning. He sure ain't going to be able to rape anybody again. And then my solution: we stick em in jail and let them think about what they did.
But on this thing about stick everybody in jail. I don't believe in actually jails. It's stupid. If American soldiers can sleep out in the middle of nowhere in a bunch of tents, then gosh darnit so can our criminals. I believe in the Tent City system, where the convicts live out in tents, and are forced to work in chain-gangs doing things like cleaning up the roadsides, While wearing thier bright orange uniforms, and all the guys are in pink underwear. They don't wanna work? Well then they sure as hell ain't gonna eat. And if they ever find time to watch tv. They're either stuck with Playhouse Disney, or the weather channel. You could try leaving but you'd kinda be in bright orange in a town full of people with guns that will shoot you.
Futhermore the Tent City system applies to teenagers too. they're old enough to know what they're doing and deserve to get their butts whooped too. I don't believe in Juvie.
Yah it's harsh in some areas but this is what I believe as far as punishment for crimes and prisons go. (sorry it's long, I'm passionate about my opinions) Anyone who's still curious about this, can Pm me. Kay?
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:36 pm
eccentricanomaly I think that if they're going to be in jail for the rest of their life, or for a very long time, then that person should have the option of the death penalty. They get to decide if they want to die. Like assisted suicide basically. But I don't think the state/country should decide whether they should live or die. ωεℓℓ α ħєαяτ τħατ ħůяτ§ ↳⇛⋙►▔▔▔§ σ м εxxℓ σ v ε я▔▔▔◄⋘⇚↲
This is a different opinion. I've never thought of letting the criminal decide. Of course, you can argue that, because they did something wrong means that they should get to decide.
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