[I] Purewalker Availability [Oyohusa says: being addressed!]

[Felmino]

To add to what Beejoux said, possible every 6 months doesn't mean automatic approval every six months. All staff ponies have to be approved.

Purewalkers are challenging to RP - moreso than any other breed in the shop. They were meant to be mostly available through contests to ensure that the owner would be able to play them correctly. The state of affairs over the last year also hasn't bee terribly conducive to putting on RP contests - we are working on fixing that.
 

[Kamiki]

JadeEye

And when I say concept contest, I don't mean a huge, drawn out to-do that takes up staff time. I mean something like the breeding slots with a thread that opens at certain times where people can submit their forms. Then maybe do a raffle from those who have concepts that fulfill the requirements and they can pay the custom price.

Oh, love this idea.

Because my only problem with straight-RP contests is this:

You have 1 prize.
You have 200 people wanting said prize.

That means you have to the best RPer out of 200 people. :/ That's awfully daunting - especially because you might not BE the next award-winning author, ya know? But just because you're not the best out of 200 people doesn't mean your RPing/concept sucks. You could be in the top 5% and still lose.

So yeah, I think the whole raffle between all acceptable concepts is a great compromise.  

[CheshireKttty]

lol i thought they couldn't have mates???

Anyway, I can understand the need to keep them regulated. Basically I would just like to see more opportunities. And I didn't mean for it to sound like staff just got to go and make one whenever, but they do seem to have much better chances then non staff.

I like the concept idea smile If we can't have them customed, then having them as a concept contest would be nice. Then we can still have the type (coloring and such) that we want and basically still getting our custom.  

[Jynk]

Nyx Queen of Darkness

Jynk

CheshireKttty

I'm not entirely sure how customed pures are going to be 'bad'? As long as they have strict guide lines I don't see the issues. And until someone actually gives me legitimate reasons I think they should be reinstated.

You ever cruise the customs and see a soq someone wants made and go "what the? why? why would you make a horse like that?" Come on, you know you've seen at least one that made you have that reaction. Well, how about people doing wildly out of character things with Soqs? Or having cosplays that probably should not be made into horses? Now... imagine that but with purewalkers.

Custom purewalkers = too easy to be ooc with them.



And maybe the issue here shouldn't be so much of "more pures for everyone!" (sounds like a campaign slogan), but more pures given out in events and more events per year.

By this theory, IRL or Staff Credits should not be allowed either as they're allowed to create them how they want. Doesn't matter if it's rare or not, people are STILL creating them.

They need to be regulated not be refused outright.

I do agree with this, actually. The staff should be held to the same regulations for breeds as everyone else. That said, I think the way they earn them has getting a pure, even for them, as incredibly difficult. Besides, they can get that pure and give it to someone else and not keep it, like they can with any custom they earn. It's their choice to earn a rare and give it away or keep it. Though, I do see some on the staff getting and keeping customs/breedings more than giving them away.  

[samus x]

Felmino

To add to what Beejoux said, possible every 6 months doesn't mean automatic approval every six months. All staff ponies have to be approved.

Purewalkers are challenging to RP - moreso than any other breed in the shop. They were meant to be mostly available through contests to ensure that the owner would be able to play them correctly. The state of affairs over the last year also hasn't bee terribly conducive to putting on RP contests - we are working on fixing that.

X_X ^ This  

[Revolutionary Roniel]

Kamiki

JadeEye

And when I say concept contest, I don't mean a huge, drawn out to-do that takes up staff time. I mean something like the breeding slots with a thread that opens at certain times where people can submit their forms. Then maybe do a raffle from those who have concepts that fulfill the requirements and they can pay the custom price.

Oh, love this idea.

Because my only problem with straight-RP contests is this:

You have 1 prize.
You have 200 people wanting said prize.

That means you have to the best RPer out of 200 people. :/ That's awfully daunting - especially because you might not BE the next award-winning author, ya know? But just because you're not the best out of 200 people doesn't mean your RPing/concept sucks. You could be in the top 5% and still lose.

So yeah, I think the whole raffle between all acceptable concepts is a great compromise.

This! So much!  

[JadeEye]

Kamiki

JadeEye

And when I say concept contest, I don't mean a huge, drawn out to-do that takes up staff time. I mean something like the breeding slots with a thread that opens at certain times where people can submit their forms. Then maybe do a raffle from those who have concepts that fulfill the requirements and they can pay the custom price.

Oh, love this idea.

Because my only problem with straight-RP contests is this:

You have 1 prize.
You have 200 people wanting said prize.

That means you have to the best RPer out of 200 people. :/ That's awfully daunting - especially because you might not BE the next award-winning author, ya know? But just because you're not the best out of 200 people doesn't mean your RPing/concept sucks. You could be in the top 5% and still lose.

So yeah, I think the whole raffle between all acceptable concepts is a great compromise.

This, exactly. It still allows an element of randomness while still holding people to standards in that they need to qualify first. Fairer odds, provided you are willing to work to be included.  

[Jynk]

King Inversitle

Concept Contests are just about the only right way to see these given out properly and efficiently. Plus, holding them at random occasions in the year would not only be fair but also provide a stable population of pures AND policing of SW rping styles.

I may not RP Hadjoc (since I dont really regular soq anymore) But as an OC and a cursedwalker, his only purpose is to eat other horses really. He cant even speak coherently, it definitely saddens me that there arent enough feral walkers tbh. I mean its in their damn description for crying out loud xD

I whole-heartedly agree. Concept contests sound the most fair. Sure, an auction or two would be good, too.. keeps the shop funds up.. but non-auction contests would be nice, too, and, as you and Jade pointed out, an rp or concept contest is the best way to regulate how that pure turns out.

Random events would be fun... for any breed.  

[Sabin Duvert]

I really like that idea as well - a limited custom raffle from approved concepts - kind of a best of both worlds of allowing customers the opportunity to be able to get a purewalker of their designs while preventing Neko Neko Desu Catwalker from being made.  

[samus x]

Jynk

I do agree with this, actually. The staff should be held to the same regulations for breeds as everyone else. That said, I think the way they earn them has getting a pure, even for them, as incredibly difficult. Besides, they can get that pure and give it to someone else and not keep it, like they can with any custom they earn. It's their choice to earn a rare and give it away or keep it. Though, I do see some on the staff getting and keeping customs/breedings more than giving them away.

:/ staff who turn in customs, their idea for what they getting HAS TO BE APPROVED.

i also resent the comment " I do see some on the staff getting and keeping customs/breedings more than giving them away." i work my a** off for what i earn and i shouldnt have to feel guilty in using my credits i earn for myself . neutral but i have used credits for a breeding then gave the extra baskets to friends. like Coal/lolite i did that breeding for a friends birthday.  

[StarieMichie]

@Bee: Okay, so at your restaurant do you get access to special menu items that regular customers don't see on the menu more than once a year? At my job as a manger of a Gamestop, I get 15% off, but same thing, I get absolutely nothing exclusive that isn't otherwise available to customers. RL comparisons are not necessarily the best in the situation here as we are talking about drawings of horses and not food or video games.

Although, it should be said that I don't think staff shouldn't get anything special, or that I don't appreciate the work that gets done. I know you guys work hard. But it should be admitted that it does get kind of depressing to see staff custom pures in the drop-offs when no one else can apply to get one themselves.

Also, I am very happy at the posts that have said that this problem is being worked on.  

[Jynk]

CheshireKttty

lol i thought they couldn't have mates???

I like the concept idea smile If we can't have them customed, then having them as a concept contest would be nice. Then we can still have the type (coloring and such) that we want and basically still getting our custom.

They can't have lifemates. They can still find a mate to breed with, just not settle into Soq marriage, so to speak, as they are incapable of love.

Perhaps the concept contests could be semi-custom sometimes.