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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:06 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:12 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:14 pm
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I have yet to start questing an Angeni...I can see the two sides to this:
Against: Wanting to have a totally unique domain/theme. For: I couldn't get mine in time, due to ____ reason, why should I be punished for someone else's luck?
A lot of that is due to luck, or having better resources for funds than someone else. That is not to say the people having the domains in the first place don't deserve it, however.
I think there is some great potential to allow multiple domains, within reason.
We have two naturals based off the same animal allowed, one of each gender, as well as one for "regular" sized Soquili, and one for Usdia.
I don't mean to say we should have 139250357 Angeni with the domain of "Love" running around, so don't mistake that.
But I think that giving others the opportunity to have a domain they dearly wanted, but couldn't get the slot/money before someone else did is a good idea.
Like the Angels, there are more than one for "Healing" and whatnot...I'd say it's possible.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:29 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:08 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:38 am
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Before I give my point of view, Lolli, "Love" might be taken, but to me, your quest sounds more like the domain of "Motherhood" since its about your feelings towards your child. (: Love is very broad - love between family members, between friends, between lovers... So yeah, try "Motherhood"!
*cough* Now, onto the topic at hand.
Before I begin, I'm a little biased because I do frequent/lurk in other big shops and some of my ideas are based off their success stories. My opinion is that "If they are of similar popularity, what worked there should have some success here as well."
Domains There are a million domains to choose from... Like I stated in the first paragraph of this post, "Love" covers a lot of things. Its a very general term - I can say "I love you" to my mum, brother, friend or lover and that one word conveys something different each time. So if say, I want a domain where the Angeni guards over the love between mated pairs - why not "Angeni of Lifemates" instead of simply "Love"? And if I wish to focus on ties between brothers, why not "Brotherhood"? Or if I want an Angeni who loves the heat and lives in lava, "Angeni of Volcanoes" instead of "Angeni of Fire". Or while "Angeni of the Ocean" had been taken by Sya's Maion, I might want an Angeni who specifically can control the ocean tide within a kilometer of himself - "Angeni of Tides".
I believe that the difference between main and sub domains is their "level" of power - a main domain Angeni would have control over anything connected to it. For example 'Fire' - the Angeni would be able to manipulate anything fire-related, including lava... Think Fire Benders of Avatar. However, if "Angeni of Fire" was to meet "Angeni of Volcanoes", the ability to manipulate lava would be nullified by "Angeni of Volcanoes" since the latter is the guardian of that specific domain! However, "Angeni of Volcanoes" would be unable to control anything but things in a volcano - lava, etc.
Having said that, a suggestion I have is for the "Taken Domain" list to be constantly updated for both staff and customers to see. Its difficult to have to backlog a year's worth of taken Domains, but if done regularly, it shouldn't be that difficult or tedious! That way, people wishing to get a "sub-domain" can PM those with a "main domain" to make sure they don't clash - for example, in my "Angeni of Tides" idea, I would contact Sya in order to get her approval.
For example, I wish to get "Angeni of Birds of Prey" one day. Let's say I already have her. So if someone wants to get "Angeni of Eagles", they are free to do so as long as they ping me to make sure our ideas don't clash. Someone who wants to do "Angeni of Song Birds" need not contact me as that's a 'main domain'. As for "Angeni of Birds", that person need not contact anyone else either. :3
While I agree that it sucks to have a domain snatched up before you due to maybe someone having more gold, luck, etc than you, I think that its possible to "replace" a domain with something more specific, like what Alexia did. Its not easy, but its not hard either... After all, I do like the idea of having one guardian per domain instead of having several guard it. Imagine if they have conflicting ideals! Anyway, whoever is a regular at SoA will know that this idea is an adaptation of their God/dess domain regulations. 83
Sya - Maybe instead of sharing Domains, they could have complimentary domains? Like... Snow and Ice, or Fun and Games. xD I'm not sure what the current rule is. *has to go read up more*
Hope this wall of text makes sense!
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:46 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:47 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:05 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:21 am
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I agree with Kamaki that SoA has a ton of gods all with really unique domains (although, I do think a lot of them are just plain ol' silly or stretching it). Also, I really don't like the idea of having to ask "can I do this domain" to someone who has something similar. I think that should be something the staff decides at the time of the custom being rolled or picked, because I trust their discretion on the issue.
I was asking not that long ago for the domain of "Suits" but was told, ohyohoho watch out because there's a "King of Hearts" running around. And when I asked if I could get Soq themed after each of the playing card suits, I was told I couldn't because there's a Queen of Hearts already, and cosplays can't be repeated. So the whole thing is kind of touchy right now, and you can't be "too close" to having a similar idea.
So, I have to agree with Lolli here that some (at very least the most basic or general of ideas) should be able to be repeated as long as the horse itself isn't being copied directly. You could have two Angeni of Love that both look and act very different. Where also, my King or Queen of Hearts would be not a copy, but my own inspiration (as I also want one of Spades, Diamonds, and Clubs: FULL HOUSE TEEPEE BABY).
There are lots of ways to use the same basic idea in different creative ways without stepping on any toes of other owners.
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:00 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:54 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:03 am
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Getting permission from the owner is just sort of like being polite about it? owo I know its a rule at SoA to get permission from people who own a Domain similar to yours before being able to get it as a custom, and people have to show prove that their Domain had been given the green light. Still, I guess that yes, not everyone is friendly or approachable so it might be better to leave it up to the staff when ordering a custom.
Anyway, SoA has an awesome system for Domains! I'm sure with a few tweaks, Soq can do something similar (such as limiting Angeni powers and posting a list of all Angeni together with their power and Domain). It'll take some work now since I think the taken Domains list is outdated, but it'll be good for the shop in the long run if its updated frequently.
As for the Queen/King of Hearts thing, I agree that yes, the design of the character would be different... However, it seems to me that you're not talking about the Domain? Just the Theme of the Angeni? Because honestly, "Angeni of King of Hearts" sounds really weird. xD But say, a Soquili inspired by "King of Hearts" (Theme) is the "Angeni of Heartbreaks"... Now that sounds better, and actually makes sense. |D I'm still waiting for the staff to sort these two things out.
To be honest, I think that unless it really is a cosplay, the same theme should be usable. Think about it - there are several Cheshire Cats in the shop: The Disney one, the Tim Burton one, and from what I know, two Cheshire-inspired OCs. To put it in Angeni terms, the 'Theme' of those Soquili is "Cheshire Cat" but they are all different designs - however, they would only be one 'Disney Cheshire' and one 'Tim Burton Cheshire' as those are cosplays.
Similarly, if I got "Tim Burton Queen of Hearts", it is a "Queen of Hearts" cosplay. However, it shouldn't stop someone else from designing a "Queen of Hearts" character and getting it as a custom as long as its not a blatant ripoff. :3 This discussion don't belong here though, since we are speaking about Domains, but feel free to carry it forward to a new thread. <3 I have points to support you with too! xD
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:11 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:48 pm
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