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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:12 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:46 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:58 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:04 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:16 pm
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[~+~]
See, i do agree that your family laughing at your own dog's pain is totally wrong, and the reasons behind their use of the shock collar is wrong; that's not the sort of thing it is meant to be used for.
However, in regard to the use of shock collars, from experience, i do think, in the right situations with the right use, they are appropriate. Y'see, we used to have a dog who had been nicked from the shelter by gypos (not the PC term for them, but i don't give a damn after the way they treated him), and he was abused, and goodness knows what else. By the time we got him, he was over two years old. It is very difficult to discipline a dog of this age, and particularly when we took him out for walks (bearing in mind we live in the countryside, loads of open fields that go onto roads), we would have a lot of trouble getting him to come back, despite trying the general methods, i.e. treats etc. It resulted in us getting one of the "control collars". Both of my parents tried the collar's shock on themselves, and said it was nothing that would actually harm him (i'm assuming these vary according to the collar though), so we tried it. It has a beeper on it, so we went with the principle of doing three beeps (so after each beep would proceed a warning, such as "-beep- Robin come back) and if he wouldn't come back after three, he would get a jolt. Unfortunately, he did have to get a jolt, and yes, he did squeak, but he came back instantly. After this, in the entire following...8, 9 years of his life? He was obedient the majority of the time (there were a few times earlier in his life where he did have it happen again, but this was generally when they were chasing a rabbit ;>_>), and we had no problems. He even got to a stage where when we stopped putting it on him, although the first time we did this he didn't want to go for a walk; almost as if he saw it as some sort of safety net for a strange reason.
The way i looked at it, is a small jolt of pain for a split second ultimately, most likely, saved his life. At some point, he would have ended up on that road, and with the speed some cars go? I know it is cruel, but i think it all depends on how and why you use them. And as i said previously, i think you are totally entitled to be upset over this. D: Sorry for the ramble.
Is there any way you can talk to them about it?
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:44 pm
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Empty Spiral [~+~] See, i do agree that your family laughing at your own dog's pain is totally wrong, and the reasons behind their use of the shock collar is wrong; that's not the sort of thing it is meant to be used for.
However, in regard to the use of shock collars, from experience, i do think, in the right situations with the right use, they are appropriate. Y'see, we used to have a dog who had been nicked from the shelter by gypos (not the PC term for them, but i don't give a damn after the way they treated him), and he was abused, and goodness knows what else. By the time we got him, he was over two years old. It is very difficult to discipline a dog of this age, and particularly when we took him out for walks (bearing in mind we live in the countryside, loads of open fields that go onto roads), we would have a lot of trouble getting him to come back, despite trying the general methods, i.e. treats etc. It resulted in us getting one of the "control collars". Both of my parents tried the collar's shock on themselves, and said it was nothing that would actually harm him (i'm assuming these vary according to the collar though), so we tried it. It has a beeper on it, so we went with the principle of doing three beeps (so after each beep would proceed a warning, such as "-beep- Robin come back) and if he wouldn't come back after three, he would get a jolt. Unfortunately, he did have to get a jolt, and yes, he did squeak, but he came back instantly. After this, in the entire following...8, 9 years of his life? He was obedient the majority of the time (there were a few times earlier in his life where he did have it happen again, but this was generally when they were chasing a rabbit ;>_>), and we had no problems. He even got to a stage where when we stopped putting it on him, although the first time we did this he didn't want to go for a walk; almost as if he saw it as some sort of safety net for a strange reason.
The way i looked at it, is a small jolt of pain for a split second ultimately, most likely, saved his life. At some point, he would have ended up on that road, and with the speed some cars go? I know it is cruel, but i think it all depends on how and why you use them. And as i said previously, i think you are totally entitled to be upset over this. D: Sorry for the ramble.
Is there any way you can talk to them about it?
No, actually. There is is no way. Mom actually already apologized. However, Dylan and Dad just got a lot of amusement from it. I really am the only one who SHOWS how much I care for Dale. I feed him and do all the other stuff (even bath him after he falls in the nasty pond). All they do is yell at and hurt him D: And I do see what you mean by the uses of the collar. But we used to have a beagle and we tried that fence that you put under ground and gave them a collar and if they passed it, they got shocked... Dad was too lazy to bury the wire and Dixie (the beagle) was desperate to be a free ranged dog like Dale... she just clothelined it and it didn't hurt her at all o 3o. I miss her. We had to sell her.
Anyways.. Even if I did talk to them, they'd just do it again. I'm the only one who treats my dog right. >|
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:37 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:19 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:57 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:35 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:33 am
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:29 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:03 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:20 am
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:32 pm
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