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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:51 pm
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yep, I admit it, I abuse cats, especially these ones I am house sitting for, I cant help it, they literally beg for it, I mean, when they hear the noise of the spring, hear the click of the button, and they think of the little red dot, they come running. If you are guessing I was accused for animal abuse, for playing with them with a laser pointer, you would be correct.
She then went on to call me stupid, say that its like rape, and torturing, that I should not have anything to do with animals, that I should be reported for animal abuse, and that she would never call me to house sit (fine by me, shes in new york!).
Went to read on, that she graduated from Cornell in NINETY EIGHT no wonder! she needs to get with the times! of course those old laser pointers were dangerous! I have searched and searched, and it says as long as you dont flash it directly in the eyes for long periods of times, its safe, how silly! just a lesson, be careful who you use as a vet, she would most assuredly NOT be getting business from me EVER if I did live near there!
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:27 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:29 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:40 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:10 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:14 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:41 am
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Krissim Klaw Cowgirl-with-heart I have searched and searched, and it says as long as you dont flash it directly in the eyes for long periods of times, its safe, how silly! just a lesson, be careful who you use as a vet, she would most assuredly NOT be getting business from me EVER if I did live near there! Actually there is a risk to using laser pointers with some animals. It can cause ocd necrotic behaviors around lights to develop and you can end up with a dog or cat that obsesses over flashes of light such as say some twinkling through your window. Is this going to happen in a stable normal dog or cat, probably not, but if you have an animal with weaker nerves prone to obsessing over things, than a laser pointer is not something you are going to want to use. I just thought I would put that out there since I think it is something people should be aware of. That being said, I would hardly call using a laser pointer animal abuse. I wounder what she would think of me teasing my praying mantises with the mouse pointer. emotion_awesome oh I know about that, but this was purely because of the eyesight deal, it had nothing to do with OCD, she actually told me to try a flash light, which I don't even have, and they aren't terribly OCD I mean, they LOVE it, but they don't wait for like 2 hours for me to play with them, they will come when they hear it out, and they will sometimes beg me to play with them, but only for like 10-20 mins, nothing like staring at one spot for 12 hours (I house sat a dog once that would do that, plus since I don't even live here, and I take it with me, it wouldn't be that big of a deal if they were kind of OCD, and its the only "toy" they have)
lol she would probably think it was abuse for you to even HAVE your mantises, I however deem that pretty funny xD
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:44 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:55 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:34 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:34 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:19 am
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Krissim Klaw Cowgirl-with-heart I have searched and searched, and it says as long as you dont flash it directly in the eyes for long periods of times, its safe, how silly! just a lesson, be careful who you use as a vet, she would most assuredly NOT be getting business from me EVER if I did live near there! Actually there is a risk to using laser pointers with some animals. It can cause ocd necrotic behaviors around lights to develop and you can end up with a dog or cat that obsesses over flashes of light such as say some twinkling through your window. Is this going to happen in a stable normal dog or cat, probably not, but if you have an animal with weaker nerves prone to obsessing over things, than a laser pointer is not something you are going to want to use. I just thought I would put that out there since I think it is something people should be aware of. That being said, I would hardly call using a laser pointer animal abuse. I wounder what she would think of me teasing my praying mantises with the mouse pointer. emotion_awesome
I've seen a couple of dogs like that before. They will just stare at shadows and walls for a lonnnng time. My friends told me they used to play with their dog with a laser pointer. so I always suspected that as a cause.
All the dogs I have ever tried to use the laser pointer on always figured out where it was coming from so they stopped chasing it and just get bored of it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:57 am
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Was this over the internet or in real life? Either way, how unprofessional and immature of that woman. I would hate to think of how she treats her customers who come in looking for guidance only to be accused of rape and torture (wtf). Not to mentioned threatened with being reported for animal abuse for doing something incredibly common and widespread.
Personally, I'm hesitant to use a laser, because I have experience with one of my family's dogs becoming a little bit neurotic over shadows and reflections on the wall. I don't know if she still does it or to what extent, but I dunno if I would play lasers with my future dogs. My cats haven't shown any signs of that behavior, though. Once it's done, it's done, so I feel pretty safe bringing it out occasionally.
But anyways, I think people should be aware of what can happen, but going as far as accusing people of torture and rape (again, wtf on that lady's part) is out of line. Not only is it not even comparable, but insulting people is no way to bring them over to your side. That's just going to make people disregard you and whatever you're saying.
I see it a lot on the internet. Feeding your dog a grocery store food? "OMG, you moron!! Do you WANT your dog to die?!!?!! If you don't know that those foods are bad you don't deserve to have a dog!! Your dog should be taken away and you should never own another one again!" Right, and how is that approach workin' out for ya? Don't have to handle them with kiddie gloves or sugarcoat everything, but downright insulting them will just make them dig their heels in and discourage them from seeking information to make better decisions. Everyone loses. But now I'm just rambling. xd
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:00 am
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