|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:14 am
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:00 pm
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:33 pm
|
|
|
|
I really like this, it reminds me of something I would come up with. Anyways, If I had to put my opinion on the matter, then in offence in no way to the person who posted above me, but I have to disagree with her. (In my opinion, understand I'm not speaking for anyone but myself ) I'm more of an atheist than anything but I use to be hardcore religious and I changed big time for no real reason but my own. Anyways. First of all, God does not choose paths for everone. People die who knows when and its not decided by anybody. The concept of Sin's and the Bible were made by man. Strait out, they had nothing to do with any godly figure. They were created by human, everyone needs to get over that subject and understand it. I don't care if people say "Those people had special encounters with god or angels or religous figures that told them to write that." Anyone could say that... I could randomly come out and make a five hundered thousand page book on what I think happened in life as well and tell everyone god told me to write it... Get the picture? Anyways. In asnwer to your question, through my simple minded opinion would be this. Everything people say here about 'Heaven' or 'God' or what he says, goes, is wrong. Its just what they want to believe so they prive on it. I think God has reasons to things. When you die (No matter what the cause: Suicide/ accident/ natural/ etc. ) Then he'll decide if he wants you there or not. Plain and simple... Just means all is waited till the time comes. Its not like god watches as a new baby is born and is like "Yep, that kids gunna comit suicide because he was being abused in his home, yep, gotta remember to make him go to hell for that..." Yeah, get my point?
Like everyone else, this was not suppose to be offending in anyways. Simply sharing my opinion. emotion_bigvein
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:20 pm
|
|
|
|
Naunii Kato I really like this, it reminds me of something I would come up with. Anyways, If I had to put my opinion on the matter, then in offence in no way to the person who posted above me, but I have to disagree with her. (In my opinion, understand I'm not speaking for anyone but myself ) I'm more of an atheist than anything but I use to be hardcore religious and I changed big time for no real reason but my own. Anyways. First of all, God does not choose paths for everone. People die who knows when and its not decided by anybody. The concept of Sin's and the Bible were made by man. Strait out, they had nothing to do with any godly figure. They were created by human, everyone needs to get over that subject and understand it. I don't care if people say "Those people had special encounters with god or angels or religous figures that told them to write that." Anyone could say that... I could randomly come out and make a five hundered thousand page book on what I think happened in life as well and tell everyone god told me to write it... Get the picture? Anyways. In asnwer to your question, through my simple minded opinion would be this. Everything people say here about 'Heaven' or 'God' or what he says, goes, is wrong. Its just what they want to believe so they prive on it. I think God has reasons to things. When you die (No matter what the cause: Suicide/ accident/ natural/ etc. ) Then he'll decide if he wants you there or not. Plain and simple... Just means all is waited till the time comes. Its not like god watches as a new baby is born and is like "Yep, that kids gunna comit suicide because he was being abused in his home, yep, gotta remember to make him go to hell for that..." Yeah, get my point?
Like everyone else, this was not suppose to be offending in anyways. Simply sharing my opinion. emotion_bigvein
You didn't understand my comment. First off it is not my own personal view, i agree with you that the bible and religion itself was made by man not by a supreme being, but that is not what this topic was asking/debating. and in answer to the topic's question i felt that in my own non-christian/catholic view point that it could be considered to be suicide when looking at the Christian/catholic understanding of suicide and that they would ague against that view point with the religious understanding that its gods will that they die in whatever manner it is that they die and not their own, and therefore by refusing to accept treatment to potentially survive a cancer or what have you it is not considered suicide and therefore they would not be damned and sent to hell. What you are arguing is in essence the existence or lack there of of a god and the legitimacy of religion, not the understanding from the religious perspective of whether or not refusing medical treatment could be considered suicide and therefore count along side other forms of suicide and be sent to hell. the debate you want to get in on is in the topic in this sub-forum called does god exist or not and its actually quite good, although it has recently died off as people have said their part and left it at that ^_^ Cleo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|