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What do you think about this rule? |
I don't mind it. |
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I think it should be reviewed. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:31 pm
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I asked this exact question in a meeting, and it seems that the problem is that some people have played Soquili that are currently adults as if they were currently foals.
In other words, let's say I get a basket and it pops. Tada, foal. Now, let's say you want to play with my new foal. But you decide to play ... Lissa, f'rinstance, as a foal. Today. Current time.
That's a little weird, yes? I think so.
But if you wanted to play *Lissa* as a filly, you -can-, if you do it in the non-canon section of the forum or write it as an RP in your teepee or something. So it's not that you can't play her as a filly, but that you can't *officially* RP her as a filly. You can't earn stats for those RPs. But you can use them to build character for her, etc.
(This is not an official staff answer. I am just sharing what I learned.)
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:12 pm
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The real reasoning behind this rule comes down to fairness. Nissy and I both remember this rule from when we joined the shop in 2007, and for some reason, it kind of got lost over the years.
The reason a person should not be able to officially RP an adult on lines they own is because that isn't fair to people who (especially with customs) purchase the more expensive 'growing' soquili. Why should someone who ponied up the money (be it Gaia gold/items or RL payment through Sirenz' slots) to get all three of those lines have to watch as others who only paid for an 'adult' line get to RP their character as a foal?
To me, that just isn't fair. Even if it was a freebie and you won a adult soquili and didn't pay a thing for it, it still wouldn't be fair.
Furthermore, it wouldn't be fair to those who finally get their 'first foal' or growing soquili. If anyone can just up and RP their adult as a foal, something gets lost. That excitement of having a foal-aged soquili gets taken away. . .
If you let people start RPing officially in the shop on lines they don't own, what's to stop them from RPing with soquili they don't actually own? This shop isn't a 'free for all' . . .you have to actually own a soquili to RP a soquili, so it makes sense you should only be able to RP the stages of the soquili you own. A lot of shops have this rule in play, so I don't see it as being particularly restrictive.
Furthermore, we've made rules to 'lessen' the restriction. If you really desire foal RP for your 'adult only' character or want to develop the character as a young spirit, use the non-cannon portion of the guild. Or write out back story in your teepee. Just because you can't use the foal RP or interactions as 'official' RP for Eldership honestly won't matter in the long term. If you're applying your soquili as an elder, whether or not you have submitted foal RP most likely isn't going to matter. If you think your character is deserving enough for the position, then you're going to have a lot more story, growth, and development long after they become an adult.
And just because you don't get stats, that shouldn't matter either. People shouldn't RP purely for stats anyway, they should do it for the joy of writing. n_n; Stats are merely a perk.
Also, if you really MUST have development of an adult at a younger age, why not just say they are barely mature? They can still be exceptionally young and still growing a little. Sort if in a 'teen' sort of stage - where they're young enough to be naive, but older than a foal. That's perfectly acceptable.
If you want foal RP, you have to wait to have the lines. The reason we allow people who have adults RP on foal lines perhaps LONG after their grown is for many reasons. On the one hand, it is usually two-weeks for a foal to grow. That's not nearly enough time to get a foal developed, and would be incredibly restricting. In other cases, maybe a person is pulled away by IRL or they plan foal plots and those plots take years to finish. There are a lot of reasons why foals who should have grown long ago still RP on foal lines. . . It happens. But I think it would be much, much, much more restrictive if we banned people from RPing their foals after they grew to adults, don't you?
Looking past the RP, the reason it isn't fair for adult-only characters to be written on foal lines is because you never had the lines to begin with, and it isn't fair for those who do.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:36 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:56 pm
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I know you didn't suggest banning people from RPing adults after they grew. You had mentioned how things were getting restrictive, and I (as usual) tend to ramble and go off on tangents. Trust me, I wasn't accusing of you saying that at all. ^_^ I'm just tired and probably shouldn't be answering questions this late, haha. I brought it up because, at the time, it was another way of addressing this issue. You had asked about why we allowed others to RP their adults who WERE on foal lines even long after they grew.
If we weren't to allow it, the only option I could think of this late at night was banning people from RPing them after they were grown. That's all.
But I digress.
You can RP her as a foal in a flashback or memory, but we have rules on flashbacks too. Funny, how this situation came up maybe a month ago. You can't have an entire RP as a flashback. You have to actually have the post be in 'current' time as well as addressing the flashback.
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I.e.
Bella thought about her life, about how far she had come since the days of her youth. Once she had been such a naive foal, such a young and lost little thing.
The young filly laughed loudly as she ran down the hill, closing her eyes as the wind rushed past her ears and her nose. She looked beihnd her, wondering if Twilight would catch up to her, of she would be lost amongst the tall grasses of the plains.
Ah, how they were fond memories. So long ago, but so full of warmth and naivety.
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Every post has to still bring your character 'back to the present' . . . That way we don't get entire RPs that are flashback foal related stuff.
As for recustoming Lissa to get her on foal lines . . .that. . . isn't something I've ever considered. So I'll have to talk to other staff about it to figure out how that worked or if it was allowed; or if it was considered a 'regeneration' and, therefor, would make all her previous RPs and memories mute. So I can't answer that one right now, but I'll bring it up in the next staff meeting and we'll see if we can't figure it out.
Edit: Just a quick FYI. For those who want staff to review this rule we already did review and discuss this rule not quite a month ago. And everything Samual and I said was what we concluded.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:05 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:53 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:10 am
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