exclaim Update 8/11/19 ~ As of 7/1/19, pets must be at least 3 months old before they can be transferred to a new owner. If a user is leaving Gaia, they may transfer their pets with no cooldown.
exclaim Update 3/10/19 ~ Co-Owned soquili where both owners have RP and teepee rights must roll separate stats for each owners teepee.
exclaim Update 12/09/17 ~ Soquili must be at least 6 months old to be able to have their ownership transferred. The only exception is if the current owner wishes to quit gaia, then they may transfer their soquili freely.
exclaim Update 3/14/12 ~ We now have a new co-ownership thread! No need to remake your co-ownership agreements. You can find them in the Archived Co-Ownership Agreement Thread. This way people will not be confused and bother Mia Firestorm, who no longer works at the shop. Thanks! ~Sirenz
Welcome everyone to the Co-Ownership Agreement Thread!
This is where co-owners make their posts, after talking to each other, and outline an agreement between them for the guidelines and rights to follow regarding the soquili they co-own together. We then take these agreements and post them in one of our reserved posts. These agreements, once posted, will be binding; like a contract. If a disagreement ever comes up, what is written here will be followed as the contract 'signed'. If a disagreement persists, appointed shop staff will make a decision in the matter.
Please make sure you fully 100% agree to the agreement before posting. Once posted it cannot be changed unless agreed upon by both owners (staff may need to be contacted). If this happens, once approved you will need to post a new co-ownership agreement here and we will update your agreement quotes as soon as possible.
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A reminder on Familiars!
Just a friendly reminder that familiars cannot be co-owned due to drama issues in the past and difficulty in plotting out possible breeding right distrubution when breedings are infinite. If you have a co-owner for a soquili, and wish to rp the familiar with the pony, you CAN let them use the character, and gift a breeding to them/let them choose who you pair them with.
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Co-own Reminder!
Hey folks, just putting out a general reminder about breeding permissions for co-owned pets.
Ownership of third baskets from a pet's breeding should not be built into a co-own agreement because technically, the third basket from a breeding is equally owned by the owners of BOTH parents from the breeding and both owners have equal say in how that basket is homed. Building ownership of the third basket into an agreement is effectively trying to box out the owner of the other parent of the breeding, which is not fair to that owner.
In a nutshell, any term in a co-ownership agreement that stipulates that the "Basket 1 goes to Mare co-owner A, Basket 2 goes to Stallion owner, and Basket 3 goes to Mare co-owner B" are not binding if that Soquili breeds and produces three baskets. The co-owners would have to determine with the owner of the other parent what will happen to the third basket and the other owner is NOT obligated or required to give it to the second co-owner.
Please do not edit your posts! We ask that co-ownership agreements posted by Person A are quoted by Person B when they agree to prevent editing!
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Soquili co-ownership breaking faq
As a rule, we do not approve of co-ownership breaking. We would like to encourage people to think these through beforehand, as co-ownerships are essentially a binding contract; therefore MAKE SURE YOU ARE OK with both your co-owner and the terms of your agreement before committing to a co-ownership.
However, we also understand that sometimes things don’t work out. As previously mentioned, these agreements are contracts, and if one party breaks their part of the contract, then there are steps that can be taken to break the co-ownership.
Scenario 1: Person A either paid completely for the Soquili, won the Soquili in a contest, or received the Soquili from a breeding and then freely gave Person B co-ownership rights.
Why/how to break: If Person B breaks their half of the agreement and Person A can prove it, then Person A merely needs to post in this thread a request to annul the co-ownership; since B had no financial or technical claim to the pet aside of A’s generosity, B’s breaking of the contract is enough for A to remove them from the pet’s co-ownership. However, A retains rights to the pet in question regardless, as they were the one that owned it to begin with.
Scenario 2: Person A and Person B both paid for the pet
Why/how to break: This situation is a bit more complicated, as legal ownership of the pet is split among two. In the case of dissent, the only real way a co-ownership can be broken is if one of the owners agrees to pay the other the price the other owner paid for the pet and the other owner is willing to be bought out. Both owners must post in this thread that they are breaking the agreement, and in this case, the paid-off owner would cease to have any claim to the pet at all. And unlike scenario 1, this doesn’t necessarily require any abuse of the co-ownership agreement; it can be done at any time as long as both owners agree to it.
As a rule, we do not approve of co-ownership breaking. We would like to encourage people to think these through beforehand, as co-ownerships are essentially a binding contract; therefore MAKE SURE YOU ARE OK with both your co-owner and the terms of your agreement before committing to a co-ownership.
However, we also understand that sometimes things don’t work out. As previously mentioned, these agreements are contracts, and if one party breaks their part of the contract, then there are steps that can be taken to break the co-ownership.
Scenario 1: Person A either paid completely for the Soquili, won the Soquili in a contest, or received the Soquili from a breeding and then freely gave Person B co-ownership rights.
Why/how to break: If Person B breaks their half of the agreement and Person A can prove it, then Person A merely needs to post in this thread a request to annul the co-ownership; since B had no financial or technical claim to the pet aside of A’s generosity, B’s breaking of the contract is enough for A to remove them from the pet’s co-ownership. However, A retains rights to the pet in question regardless, as they were the one that owned it to begin with.
Scenario 2: Person A and Person B both paid for the pet
Why/how to break: This situation is a bit more complicated, as legal ownership of the pet is split among two. In the case of dissent, the only real way a co-ownership can be broken is if one of the owners agrees to pay the other the price the other owner paid for the pet and the other owner is willing to be bought out. Both owners must post in this thread that they are breaking the agreement, and in this case, the paid-off owner would cease to have any claim to the pet at all. And unlike scenario 1, this doesn’t necessarily require any abuse of the co-ownership agreement; it can be done at any time as long as both owners agree to it.
*PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE SCENARIOS ONLY APPLY TO CASES WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING, WRITTEN AGREEMENT. IF THERE IS NO CO-OWN POSTED, THEN YOU ARE STUCK WITH YOUR CO-OWNER UNLESS THEY VOLUNTARILY GIVE UP THEIR STAKE IN THE PET
*Other situations will be dealt with and described as they occur. If you have a question regarding a co-ownership problem that is not addressed here, please pm Soquili Era.
Any questions, please pm Soquili Era about those as well.
Co-ownership Thread Staff
Shop owner: Soquili Era
Thread updater: Soquili Era
PERSON TO WHOM INQUIRIES SHOULD BE SENT: Phail Ninja
