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Garland-Green

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:00 pm
Answer: Every believer has, at one time or another, lamented his or her inability to stop sinning. While we tend to think the problem stems from weakness in ourselves, the inability to stop sinning usually indicates a deficiency in our understanding of God’s strength. When we do not understand His power to save, forgive and cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9), we can get caught in a destructive cycle of sin, guilt and fear, which leads to a lack of joy in our salvation, which leads to more sin.

In Psalm 51:12; David pleads with God, “Restore to me the joy of my salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.” He wrote this after he had fallen into the grievous sins of adultery and murder. It is interesting to notice that he asks God for a return of the joy of his salvation. Joy is key in our victory over sin. It is also important that we understand that God sustains us “with a willing spirit.” God takes joy in saving us, and we take joy in being saved.

God has saved us willingly, to display His grace, love and strength. Our salvation does not depend on how much or how little we sin, how much or how little we evangelize or repent or do good works, how loving or unloving we are, or anything else about us. Our salvation is entirely a product of God’s grace, love and purpose (Ephesians 2:8-9). This is important to understand, because (ironically) believing that we are responsible to keep the law leads inevitably to the inability to stop sinning.

Paul explains this in Romans 7:7-10. When we understand a law, like “do not covet,” our sin nature inevitably rebels against that law, and we covet. This is the plight of man – it is simply how we are. The law aggravates our sin nature. John Bunyan illustrates this truth in The Pilgrim’s Progress. In the Interpreter’s House, Christian sees a very dusty room which had never been swept. First, a man with a broom tries to clean the floor, but the broom’s only effect is to raise choking clouds of dust. The more he sweeps, the more the dust is stirred up; this is a picture of the law, Bunyan says, which cannot clean a sinful heart but only stirs up the sin. However, Christian watches as the broom is set aside and a young girl sprinkles the whole room with water. After that, the room is quickly cleaned; this is a picture of the gospel of grace and its ability to purify the heart. The grace of God can do what the law could never do: cleanse us from sin.

So, the way to stop sinning is not to add more rules. God knew this. In fact, He gave us the law so that we would be aware of our sin and turn to Him (Romans 3:19-20; Galatians 3:23-26). The law is good. It is a reflection of God’s nature and His perfection. But it was not given to us for our salvation. Christ fulfills the law for us (Matthew 5:17).

When we disagree with God and hang onto the idea that we must fulfill the law, we lose our joy in salvation and set ourselves up for failure. We labor under a terrible burden. We feel pressured to do something to secure salvation, but, at the same time, our sin nature renders us unable to obey the law. The more we focus on the law, the more our sin nature rebels. The more our sin nature rebels, the more frightened we become that we are not saved. The more frightened and joyless we become, the more tempting sin’s promise of happiness is.

The only way to break the cycle and stop sinning is to accept the fact that we cannot stop sinning. This may seem contradictory, but if a person does not stop trying to save himself, he will never rest in the knowledge that God has saved him. The joy of salvation comes from accepting the fact that God’s grace covers us, that He will change us and conform us to the image of Christ, and that it is His work, not ours (Romans 8:29; Philippians 1:6; Philippians 2:13; Hebrews 13:20-21). Once this reality is truly grasped, sin loses its power. We no longer feel the impulse to turn to sin as a means of temporary relief from anxiety, because the anxiety and pressure has been relieved once for all by Christ (Hebrews 10:10; 14). Then, the good works we accomplish in faith are done because of love and joy rather than out of fear or duty.

“The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain” [1 Corinthians 15:56-58].

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:10 pm
I find myself thinking like that all the time. I know I'm saved, but at times i worry I'm not because I know how un perfect I am. I remember my youth leader saying that after you accept Jesus into your heart you are saved and your sins are wiped away and you never sin again. That confused me.. I guess I should of questioned her on it. But now, what I think she meant is what you posted. Even though after we are saved we will continue to sin because we aren't perfect, but my sins will be taken away, is that correct? So I am saved regardless of if I sin? Though I do understand you shouldn't deliberately sin because of that reason because then you wouldn't care one way or the other. Anyways, what I am trying to get at is, even though I'm saved, I'll still sin, but I'll still be saved?  

Girl With The Windex Eyes


Garland-Green

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:14 am
Girl With The Windex Eyes
I find myself thinking like that all the time. I know I'm saved, but at times i worry I'm not because I know how un perfect I am. I remember my youth leader saying that after you accept Jesus into your heart you are saved and your sins are wiped away and you never sin again. That confused me.. I guess I should of questioned her on it. But now, what I think she meant is what you posted. Even though after we are saved we will continue to sin because we aren't perfect, but my sins will be taken away, is that correct? So I am saved regardless of if I sin? Though I do understand you shouldn't deliberately sin because of that reason because then you wouldn't care one way or the other. Anyways, what I am trying to get at is, even though I'm saved, I'll still sin, but I'll still be saved?



Isaiah 43:25 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

We can see from this that God saves us despite of ourselves, not because of ourselves. That we are and have been written down in the book of life since the foundation of the World. Even before any of us even existed. He knew who we would be. I don't think he sits there with an eraser every time we do something bad to erase our name then put it back in again after we have asked sincerely for forgiveness. How could we then have been in the Book since the foundation of the world?

I think we can sin, and still have the Holy Spirit. (I personally would wonder if someone really was saved to begin with if they lived a life that didn't show they are saved. Because good threes can't give bad fruit like the parable explains.) I don't think the Holy Spirit stays because I don't sin, but because Jesus promised I would receive it when I believed, and that I would be sealed with the Spirit until the day of redemption. So we will be saved because of Jesus, not because of ourselves and our own abilities. God saves us because it is in his nature to do so. His nature compels him to. It doesn't mean I encourage anyone to sin. That is grieving the Holy Spirit that lives in you.

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

We are not perfected. We are a work still in progress that will continue until Jesus returns.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:42 pm
Garland-Green
Girl With The Windex Eyes
I find myself thinking like that all the time. I know I'm saved, but at times i worry I'm not because I know how un perfect I am. I remember my youth leader saying that after you accept Jesus into your heart you are saved and your sins are wiped away and you never sin again. That confused me.. I guess I should of questioned her on it. But now, what I think she meant is what you posted. Even though after we are saved we will continue to sin because we aren't perfect, but my sins will be taken away, is that correct? So I am saved regardless of if I sin? Though I do understand you shouldn't deliberately sin because of that reason because then you wouldn't care one way or the other. Anyways, what I am trying to get at is, even though I'm saved, I'll still sin, but I'll still be saved?



Isaiah 43:25 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

We can see from this that God saves us despite of ourselves, not because of ourselves. That we are and have been written down in the book of life since the foundation of the World. Even before any of us even existed. He knew who we would be. I don't think he sits there with an eraser every time we do something bad to erase our name then put it back in again after we have asked sincerely for forgiveness. How could we then have been in the Book since the foundation of the world?

I think we can sin, and still have the Holy Spirit. (I personally would wonder if someone really was saved to begin with if they lived a life that didn't show they are saved. Because good threes can't give bad fruit like the parable explains.) I don't think the Holy Spirit stays because I don't sin, but because Jesus promised I would receive it when I believed, and that I would be sealed with the Spirit until the day of redemption. So we will be saved because of Jesus, not because of ourselves and our own abilities. God saves us because it is in his nature to do so. His nature compels him to. It doesn't mean I encourage anyone to sin. That is grieving the Holy Spirit that lives in you.

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

We are not perfected. We are a work still in progress that will continue until Jesus returns.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus

Well that makes me feel better. I mean I get when you are saved you are written in the book of life and you can never be taken out of it, but reading that as well and knowing that makes me worry less about it. Not that I want to sin and not that I will purposely sin, but knowing that when I do, I'll still be accepted into Heaven.  

Girl With The Windex Eyes


Garland-Green

Friendly Gaian

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:55 am
Girl With The Windex Eyes
Garland-Green
Girl With The Windex Eyes
I find myself thinking like that all the time. I know I'm saved, but at times i worry I'm not because I know how un perfect I am. I remember my youth leader saying that after you accept Jesus into your heart you are saved and your sins are wiped away and you never sin again. That confused me.. I guess I should of questioned her on it. But now, what I think she meant is what you posted. Even though after we are saved we will continue to sin because we aren't perfect, but my sins will be taken away, is that correct? So I am saved regardless of if I sin? Though I do understand you shouldn't deliberately sin because of that reason because then you wouldn't care one way or the other. Anyways, what I am trying to get at is, even though I'm saved, I'll still sin, but I'll still be saved?



Isaiah 43:25 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

We can see from this that God saves us despite of ourselves, not because of ourselves. That we are and have been written down in the book of life since the foundation of the World. Even before any of us even existed. He knew who we would be. I don't think he sits there with an eraser every time we do something bad to erase our name then put it back in again after we have asked sincerely for forgiveness. How could we then have been in the Book since the foundation of the world?

I think we can sin, and still have the Holy Spirit. (I personally would wonder if someone really was saved to begin with if they lived a life that didn't show they are saved. Because good threes can't give bad fruit like the parable explains.) I don't think the Holy Spirit stays because I don't sin, but because Jesus promised I would receive it when I believed, and that I would be sealed with the Spirit until the day of redemption. So we will be saved because of Jesus, not because of ourselves and our own abilities. God saves us because it is in his nature to do so. His nature compels him to. It doesn't mean I encourage anyone to sin. That is grieving the Holy Spirit that lives in you.

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

We are not perfected. We are a work still in progress that will continue until Jesus returns.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus

Well that makes me feel better. I mean I get when you are saved you are written in the book of life and you can never be taken out of it, but reading that as well and knowing that makes me worry less about it. Not that I want to sin and not that I will purposely sin, but knowing that when I do, I'll still be accepted into Heaven.

A few more verses of comfort:
John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

John 10:29
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:19 pm
Garland-Green
Girl With The Windex Eyes
Garland-Green
Girl With The Windex Eyes
I find myself thinking like that all the time. I know I'm saved, but at times i worry I'm not because I know how un perfect I am. I remember my youth leader saying that after you accept Jesus into your heart you are saved and your sins are wiped away and you never sin again. That confused me.. I guess I should of questioned her on it. But now, what I think she meant is what you posted. Even though after we are saved we will continue to sin because we aren't perfect, but my sins will be taken away, is that correct? So I am saved regardless of if I sin? Though I do understand you shouldn't deliberately sin because of that reason because then you wouldn't care one way or the other. Anyways, what I am trying to get at is, even though I'm saved, I'll still sin, but I'll still be saved?

Thanks! Such great versus!

Isaiah 43:25 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

We can see from this that God saves us despite of ourselves, not because of ourselves. That we are and have been written down in the book of life since the foundation of the World. Even before any of us even existed. He knew who we would be. I don't think he sits there with an eraser every time we do something bad to erase our name then put it back in again after we have asked sincerely for forgiveness. How could we then have been in the Book since the foundation of the world?

I think we can sin, and still have the Holy Spirit. (I personally would wonder if someone really was saved to begin with if they lived a life that didn't show they are saved. Because good threes can't give bad fruit like the parable explains.) I don't think the Holy Spirit stays because I don't sin, but because Jesus promised I would receive it when I believed, and that I would be sealed with the Spirit until the day of redemption. So we will be saved because of Jesus, not because of ourselves and our own abilities. God saves us because it is in his nature to do so. His nature compels him to. It doesn't mean I encourage anyone to sin. That is grieving the Holy Spirit that lives in you.

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

We are not perfected. We are a work still in progress that will continue until Jesus returns.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus

Well that makes me feel better. I mean I get when you are saved you are written in the book of life and you can never be taken out of it, but reading that as well and knowing that makes me worry less about it. Not that I want to sin and not that I will purposely sin, but knowing that when I do, I'll still be accepted into Heaven.

A few more verses of comfort:
John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

John 10:29
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
 

Girl With The Windex Eyes

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