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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:19 pm
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:06 pm
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:14 am
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:15 am
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ll-0RACL3_kun-ll Garland-Green If Jesus died for everyone's sins, did he also die for the sins of those that are in Hell? Did Jesus die for the whole world, or a few select? What do you think? Here's a comic that might answer your question: http://artngame215.deviantart.com/art/Jesus-Went-To-Hell-For-You-281070597?q=gallery:artngame215/30945192&qo=6 Hope it helps 3nodding Excellent cartoon. smile The artist is very right. The work he did was finished on the cross, he did not need to go beat up the devil and steal the keys to Hades, they keys was already his. It was the full payment of our sins, nothing can be added, because it is by his blood that we are saved and washed clean.
Romans 3:25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:16 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:37 am
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Aquatic_blue This is an excellent topic smile definitely a good one for friendly debate. About the Jesus going to Hell thing...I have heard that, but not quite sure where I stand with it. Although, I believe that He did take the keys of Hades/Hell to give us the chance of Salvation. I've heard that some people say that Jesus tried to save those that were even in Hell so they had that chance, too. Biblically, I don't know much concerning that and am not quite sure where I stand on that yet since I haven't read the entire Bible and studied those parts in particular. It's definitely something I should study more 3nodding I believe Jesus died for everyone's sins. Salvation is not limited - it's a free gift we can accept or deny. I think that there is a destination for every choice considering the free-will factor. For example, if we decide to believe in God and commit all of ourself to God then Heaven will be that reward if we are truly 100% in Him. If someone decides God is not real or doesn't make sense or don't want to come to His terms in the end then that person will go to Hell if they don't get their life turned around. However, we know that not everyone will be saved because everyone has free will and some people will choose to deny God's existence. Sinners (everyone on the face of this planet - believer or non-believer) have that chance of salvation biggrin
Quote: Sinners (everyone on the face of this planet - believer or non-believer) have that chance of salvation biggrin I agree very much with that statement. Even those in Hell had their chance to repent, so it must mean that had they accepted the free gift of salvation they would not be where they are and that Jesus did die for their sins. They simply chose to carry their own sins, and pay the penalty themselves.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:18 pm
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Garland-Green Aquatic_blue This is an excellent topic smile definitely a good one for friendly debate. About the Jesus going to Hell thing...I have heard that, but not quite sure where I stand with it. Although, I believe that He did take the keys of Hades/Hell to give us the chance of Salvation. I've heard that some people say that Jesus tried to save those that were even in Hell so they had that chance, too. Biblically, I don't know much concerning that and am not quite sure where I stand on that yet since I haven't read the entire Bible and studied those parts in particular. It's definitely something I should study more 3nodding I believe Jesus died for everyone's sins. Salvation is not limited - it's a free gift we can accept or deny. I think that there is a destination for every choice considering the free-will factor. For example, if we decide to believe in God and commit all of ourself to God then Heaven will be that reward if we are truly 100% in Him. If someone decides God is not real or doesn't make sense or don't want to come to His terms in the end then that person will go to Hell if they don't get their life turned around. However, we know that not everyone will be saved because everyone has free will and some people will choose to deny God's existence. Sinners (everyone on the face of this planet - believer or non-believer) have that chance of salvation biggrin Quote: Sinners (everyone on the face of this planet - believer or non-believer) have that chance of salvation biggrin I agree very much with that statement. Even those in Hell had their chance to repent, so it must mean that had they accepted the free gift of salvation they would not be where they are and that Jesus did die for their sins. They simply chose to carry their own sins, and pay the penalty themselves.
Your second sentence is even more fantastic...because I know that some people that I have come across believe that evil demons or souls could have the chance of turning around. I've heard some say that Satan could turn around, but none of them will because they had their chance to repent and some knew the choice was there, but chose to deny it so they are where they are now. It's important to realize that right now is our chance because when judgement comes, we can't be on our hands and knees begging and saying, "But...I thought you 'might' have existed! Isn't that enough?!" or, "Wow, you exist. I believe now! Can I get past those gates?" because the judgement has already come and God does not judge like the judges in our society. His judgement is different.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:03 pm
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:01 am
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