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Aside from the G.P.S guild mule "righteous idealism" ( and yes, He is also committing a cult due to the idea that he is connecting the well Guild as the "popular Guild for a real Christian" when clearly they fall under the term legalism", and yes, I too had their lies driven out of their mouths in a "rhetorical" and "disrespectful" manner of non compassionate ideals given and appointed by their Captain, and yes I tried to speak with the captain and he denied me when i brought up a warning to him about his Guild and was declared that i was bashful), I believe A real Church are the ones who are not trying to gain people, but they are trying to gain Christ. Popularity are less to the true Churches. However, If God gave them a calling to it from their Anguish, and anguish is being the pain of God's heart ( which is the reason my Guild was created in the front of this Guild, I thank the one whom placed it there =) ), I believe God will take your prayers and move you to that kind of Church.

I am currently at Times square Church, A church that is really in deep anguish for God. We have a lot of fellowship, but when God's words hits the deck, We're on DECK ( XD it was said by a minister in the service). I think these churches that are heart broken and praying to seek God's face. Praying in anguish and sorrow for this world and Just purely calling out to Jesus to strong that you yourself had to cry, Then that Church is not of the world's. I seen how churches can get people in. saying Jokes, saying punch lines, saying good things about God. saying a nice smooth message... FORGETTING about the LOVE of CHRIST and not even praying on their faces to God and saying "I NEED YOU". If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from. Because those Churches are for the world.

I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians. One goes to baptist, one goes to catholic, one goes in Islam, one goes to Buddha, one goes to the twelve paths, E.T.C... God himself said not to compromise nor to moderate Him. IT IS ALL OUT OR NOTHING AT ALL. God said from his point (and I am interpreting this) If I am your life, where are your prayers? where is your Love for me? where is my anguish in you? why are you not seeking out my face? why are you not devoted in my words? why are you not broken in flesh and gaining my spirit? why are you just buying time? when everyone around you will die and burn? where is your motivation at if i am not your motivation? Where? why are you seeking for the things of this earth? If i have something better here, in heaven?

See we care to Just take it easy. Play it soft. Accept people for who they are. Sure, Jesus himself done that. But He did not delay salvation. He offers it as a revelation. He doesn't moderate. He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE." He follows the will of his father. In anguish daily. In prayer daily. Being the living bible as declared in John 1:1.

Don't look for a Church that lets you do what you want. Look for a Church that is on fire for God. Sadly, not many are out there.... But In Jesus name, there will be those few that God will shake your spirit and will tell you, This is MY Church. If your spirit isn't convicted or shaken by the words preached by the pastor, It is NOT of God's and it will be sick, especially to those who are on fire for God.

A video from the Greatest pastor David Wilkerson to call those Churches out.
a power warning of David Wilkerson.

Which Church/ Guild/ ministries would you believe? There is a Choice. A church, Guild or a form of Ministry are saying " Religion" are not the one's you should be joining. Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join. Be careful my brothers and sisters, who you are hearing. I myself trust the Living waters, The Bible, My Ministry (even if people don't want to hear the true message from God), And other NON DENOMINATIONAL ministries that are not Religious, But follows the heart of God's. we all have our own testimonies. Don't let it die just because no one can believe it... That testimony is for you and you alone with God. You know your saved, and people calling you a Liar? If God is not calling you a Liar, Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ.

Be strong in Christ my brothers/ sisters. God, Break our flesh and let the Spirit Rise in us! It is the Final hours of Grace.... It will fall soon... We must fight a great war now.

WE are THE CHOSEN GENERATIONS

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If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from.

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There is honestly nothing wrong with eating while a message is being said. This in itself I find a worldly thing is when people say, "You can't eat in church or during a sermon." And I generally say, "Why not?" Sure, in churches if it's distracting to others it's fine - but what would be wrong with having a potluck and the pastor preaching as well? There is nothing wrong with it. It's just that society has a set ideal that people should not eat while a pastor is preaching.

Although, Jesus taught while people ate - he reached out to people while they ate. He also reached out to people when they weren't eating. His focus was to reach out to everyone, no matter who they were or what they were doing at the time.

Well, if you noticed how people are really addicted by devices and things of this world that they are unable to continue in devotion for Christ, then that would be a problem. Yes, Jesus himself had preached while people ate, but they never had technology wink so basically they weren't distracted from the word of God. Which is why it is not " worldy". Its more worldy if your allowed to. Just look around those who puts their face in a text, video, and pornography. As well as televisions. If your pastors are calling against televisions, they know that God had declared "why?" (As you questioned). People who are followers of God never asked "why?" They just did it, as the good and faithful does wink

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I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians.

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Where may I find this?

Also, what it all boils down to is if the person's relationship is right with God. You may have a Catholic whose mind, body, and soul are all right with God, or someone of a different denomination. Sometimes there's that one person in that denomination that knows what's right, but feel held back from doing what is right.

It's when jerusalem was divided into nations. Forgot the verse. If the person's relationship is right with God, then they would
Be non denominal because they put their trust in Christ. Denominals are created with a set of trasitional laws, in which is why people are being held from what is right. Because it would goes against their "religion". Which is what God spoken against.

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He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE."

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Yes, Jesus did say, "I am the way and the truth and the life..." in John 14:6. Jesus is also part of the trinity - 3 distinct beings that operate as one. So in a sense, Jesus is God - even though he didn't say in his own words, "I am God."

Isn't that the reason why John 1:1 said the word was with God, the word was God and the word became flesh, because already that would say Jesus was God? We don't need to think too hard really XD God made it easier for us. Because He gave us his spirit. However, God was spirit, Son and father. Which would be Godhead in a saying. But be careful, this is why most people would fall. Because they think you have to serve all 3... not true at all.

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Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join.

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Yahweh and Elohim are both names for God. I don't see anything wrong with using them. Some of them are a bit more complicated to use in context because they are both of Hebrew origins. Elohim is complicated, but it a term that has been used for "God" in the Hebrew as well as meaning "god" in a general sense (it can be singular and plural) depending on context. Just because other cultures use the name "Yahweh" or "Elohim" for "God" or "Yeshua" for Jesus does not make them wrong. God was "Yahweh" and "Elohim" in text before the English wrote it as "God". "Yeshua" was written down before the English versions said "Jesus". Also, it doesn't make us wrong if we use the word "God" instead of Yahweh or Elohim, and it doesn't make us wrong if we say the work "Jesus" instead of Yeshua.

Yes, but as I recalled from ancient times, this name would be used in Demented rituals. And by a saying from a wise one, " If the name of the Lord is used as vanitory or has no power in dominion, that name should not be used in his Glory. However, yes, it is hebrew. But because of later times, hebrew was transformed to english by God himself =] knowing that the name was being used demonically. Surpirsingly it was fortold in revelations. God is Good.

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Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ

Those who transgress against us also have a chance of Salvation as well. Take Apostle Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) for example - he murdered Christians before he came to God. He imprisoned and killed Christians in his life so he was in sin for murdering people, especially those who were peoples of God. However, Paul did turn around. It shows Salvation is possible.

I never said "they will not find salvation" wink as stated, They will never find victory in Christ. It means that people will try to say I am of Christ and say I am right and things as such. Those kind of Christians are ambitious in their selfish ways and therefore will not find victory. Especially in Christ wink  

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Aside from the G.P.S guild mule "righteous idealism" ( and yes, He is also committing a cult due to the idea that he is connecting the well Guild as the "popular Guild for a real Christian" when clearly they fall under the term legalism", and yes, I too had their lies driven out of their mouths in a "rhetorical" and "disrespectful" manner of non compassionate ideals given and appointed by their Captain, and yes I tried to speak with the captain and he denied me when i brought up a warning to him about his Guild and was declared that i was bashful), I believe A real Church are the ones who are not trying to gain people, but they are trying to gain Christ. Popularity are less to the true Churches. However, If God gave them a calling to it from their Anguish, and anguish is being the pain of God's heart ( which is the reason my Guild was created in the front of this Guild, I thank the one whom placed it there =) ), I believe God will take your prayers and move you to that kind of Church.

I am currently at Times square Church, A church that is really in deep anguish for God. We have a lot of fellowship, but when God's words hits the deck, We're on DECK ( XD it was said by a minister in the service). I think these churches that are heart broken and praying to seek God's face. Praying in anguish and sorrow for this world and Just purely calling out to Jesus to strong that you yourself had to cry, Then that Church is not of the world's. I seen how churches can get people in. saying Jokes, saying punch lines, saying good things about God. saying a nice smooth message... FORGETTING about the LOVE of CHRIST and not even praying on their faces to God and saying "I NEED YOU". If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from. Because those Churches are for the world.

I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians. One goes to baptist, one goes to catholic, one goes in Islam, one goes to Buddha, one goes to the twelve paths, E.T.C... God himself said not to compromise nor to moderate Him. IT IS ALL OUT OR NOTHING AT ALL. God said from his point (and I am interpreting this) If I am your life, where are your prayers? where is your Love for me? where is my anguish in you? why are you not seeking out my face? why are you not devoted in my words? why are you not broken in flesh and gaining my spirit? why are you just buying time? when everyone around you will die and burn? where is your motivation at if i am not your motivation? Where? why are you seeking for the things of this earth? If i have something better here, in heaven?

See we care to Just take it easy. Play it soft. Accept people for who they are. Sure, Jesus himself done that. But He did not delay salvation. He offers it as a revelation. He doesn't moderate. He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE." He follows the will of his father. In anguish daily. In prayer daily. Being the living bible as declared in John 1:1.

Don't look for a Church that lets you do what you want. Look for a Church that is on fire for God. Sadly, not many are out there.... But In Jesus name, there will be those few that God will shake your spirit and will tell you, This is MY Church. If your spirit isn't convicted or shaken by the words preached by the pastor, It is NOT of God's and it will be sick, especially to those who are on fire for God.

A video from the Greatest pastor David Wilkerson to call those Churches out.
a power warning of David Wilkerson.

Which Church/ Guild/ ministries would you believe? There is a Choice. A church, Guild or a form of Ministry are saying " Religion" are not the one's you should be joining. Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join. Be careful my brothers and sisters, who you are hearing. I myself trust the Living waters, The Bible, My Ministry (even if people don't want to hear the true message from God), And other NON DENOMINATIONAL ministries that are not Religious, But follows the heart of God's. we all have our own testimonies. Don't let it die just because no one can believe it... That testimony is for you and you alone with God. You know your saved, and people calling you a Liar? If God is not calling you a Liar, Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ.

Be strong in Christ my brothers/ sisters. God, Break our flesh and let the Spirit Rise in us! It is the Final hours of Grace.... It will fall soon... We must fight a great war now.

WE are THE CHOSEN GENERATIONS

The Ministry

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If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from.

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There is honestly nothing wrong with eating while a message is being said. This in itself I find a worldly thing is when people say, "You can't eat in church or during a sermon." And I generally say, "Why not?" Sure, in churches if it's distracting to others it's fine - but what would be wrong with having a potluck and the pastor preaching as well? There is nothing wrong with it. It's just that society has a set ideal that people should not eat while a pastor is preaching.

Although, Jesus taught while people ate - he reached out to people while they ate. He also reached out to people when they weren't eating. His focus was to reach out to everyone, no matter who they were or what they were doing at the time.

Well, if you noticed how people are really addicted by devices and things of this world that they are unable to continue in devotion for Christ, then that would be a problem. Yes, Jesus himself had preached while people ate, but they never had technology wink so basically they weren't distracted from the word of God. Which is why it is not " worldy". Its more worldy if your allowed to. Just look around those who puts their face in a text, video, and pornography. As well as televisions. If your pastors are calling against televisions, they know that God had declared "why?" (As you questioned). People who are followers of God never asked "why?" They just did it, as the good and faithful does wink

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I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians.

Quote:

Where may I find this?

Also, what it all boils down to is if the person's relationship is right with God. You may have a Catholic whose mind, body, and soul are all right with God, or someone of a different denomination. Sometimes there's that one person in that denomination that knows what's right, but feel held back from doing what is right.

It's when jerusalem was divided into nations. Forgot the verse. If the person's relationship is right with God, then they would
Be non denominal because they put their trust in Christ. Denominals are created with a set of trasitional laws, in which is why people are being held from what is right. Because it would goes against their "religion". Which is what God spoken against.

Quote:

He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE."

Quote:

Yes, Jesus did say, "I am the way and the truth and the life..." in John 14:6. Jesus is also part of the trinity - 3 distinct beings that operate as one. So in a sense, Jesus is God - even though he didn't say in his own words, "I am God."

Isn't that the reason why John 1:1 said the word was with God, the word was God and the word became flesh, because already that would say Jesus was God? We don't need to think too hard really XD God made it easier for us. Because He gave us his spirit. However, God was spirit, Son and father. Which would be Godhead in a saying. But be careful, this is why most people would fall. Because they think you have to serve all 3... not true at all.

Quote:

Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join.

Quote:

Yahweh and Elohim are both names for God. I don't see anything wrong with using them. Some of them are a bit more complicated to use in context because they are both of Hebrew origins. Elohim is complicated, but it a term that has been used for "God" in the Hebrew as well as meaning "god" in a general sense (it can be singular and plural) depending on context. Just because other cultures use the name "Yahweh" or "Elohim" for "God" or "Yeshua" for Jesus does not make them wrong. God was "Yahweh" and "Elohim" in text before the English wrote it as "God". "Yeshua" was written down before the English versions said "Jesus". Also, it doesn't make us wrong if we use the word "God" instead of Yahweh or Elohim, and it doesn't make us wrong if we say the work "Jesus" instead of Yeshua.

Yes, but as I recalled from ancient times, this name would be used in Demented rituals. And by a saying from a wise one, " If the name of the Lord is used as vanitory or has no power in dominion, that name should not be used in his Glory. However, yes, it is hebrew. But because of later times, hebrew was transformed to english by God himself =] knowing that the name was being used demonically. Surpirsingly it was fortold in revelations. God is Good.

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Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ

Those who transgress against us also have a chance of Salvation as well. Take Apostle Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) for example - he murdered Christians before he came to God. He imprisoned and killed Christians in his life so he was in sin for murdering people, especially those who were peoples of God. However, Paul did turn around. It shows Salvation is possible.

I never said "they will not find salvation" wink as stated, They will never find victory in Christ. It means that people will try to say I am of Christ and say I am right and things as such. Those kind of Christians are ambitious in their selfish ways and therefore will not find victory. Especially in Christ wink

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I never said "they will not find salvation"

But this doesn't mean it wasn't implied somewhere.

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as stated, They will never find victory in Christ.

Saying, "They will never find victory in Christ." Let's examine that.The definition of "never" is:

adverb
1.not ever; at no time
2.not at all; absolutely not
3.to no extent or degree

Victory is defined as:

1. a success or triumph over an enemy in battle or war.
2.an engagement ending in such triumph
3.the ultimate and decisive superiority in any battle or contest
4.a success or superior position achieved against any opponent, opposition, difficulty, etc.: a moral victory.
5.( initial capital letter ) the ancient Roman goddess Victoria, often represented in statues or on coins as the personification of victory.

I find your statements a bit contradicting.

If a person turns their life around for God completely and receive Salvation, there is nothing that says they will "never find victory in Christ." Now, if they don't change, and remain one way their entire lives not believing in Christ then they won't know Christ. However, there is always hope through God, and nothing is impossible through Him.  

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Aside from the G.P.S guild mule "righteous idealism" ( and yes, He is also committing a cult due to the idea that he is connecting the well Guild as the "popular Guild for a real Christian" when clearly they fall under the term legalism", and yes, I too had their lies driven out of their mouths in a "rhetorical" and "disrespectful" manner of non compassionate ideals given and appointed by their Captain, and yes I tried to speak with the captain and he denied me when i brought up a warning to him about his Guild and was declared that i was bashful), I believe A real Church are the ones who are not trying to gain people, but they are trying to gain Christ. Popularity are less to the true Churches. However, If God gave them a calling to it from their Anguish, and anguish is being the pain of God's heart ( which is the reason my Guild was created in the front of this Guild, I thank the one whom placed it there =) ), I believe God will take your prayers and move you to that kind of Church.

I am currently at Times square Church, A church that is really in deep anguish for God. We have a lot of fellowship, but when God's words hits the deck, We're on DECK ( XD it was said by a minister in the service). I think these churches that are heart broken and praying to seek God's face. Praying in anguish and sorrow for this world and Just purely calling out to Jesus to strong that you yourself had to cry, Then that Church is not of the world's. I seen how churches can get people in. saying Jokes, saying punch lines, saying good things about God. saying a nice smooth message... FORGETTING about the LOVE of CHRIST and not even praying on their faces to God and saying "I NEED YOU". If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from. Because those Churches are for the world.

I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians. One goes to baptist, one goes to catholic, one goes in Islam, one goes to Buddha, one goes to the twelve paths, E.T.C... God himself said not to compromise nor to moderate Him. IT IS ALL OUT OR NOTHING AT ALL. God said from his point (and I am interpreting this) If I am your life, where are your prayers? where is your Love for me? where is my anguish in you? why are you not seeking out my face? why are you not devoted in my words? why are you not broken in flesh and gaining my spirit? why are you just buying time? when everyone around you will die and burn? where is your motivation at if i am not your motivation? Where? why are you seeking for the things of this earth? If i have something better here, in heaven?

See we care to Just take it easy. Play it soft. Accept people for who they are. Sure, Jesus himself done that. But He did not delay salvation. He offers it as a revelation. He doesn't moderate. He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE." He follows the will of his father. In anguish daily. In prayer daily. Being the living bible as declared in John 1:1.

Don't look for a Church that lets you do what you want. Look for a Church that is on fire for God. Sadly, not many are out there.... But In Jesus name, there will be those few that God will shake your spirit and will tell you, This is MY Church. If your spirit isn't convicted or shaken by the words preached by the pastor, It is NOT of God's and it will be sick, especially to those who are on fire for God.

A video from the Greatest pastor David Wilkerson to call those Churches out.
a power warning of David Wilkerson.

Which Church/ Guild/ ministries would you believe? There is a Choice. A church, Guild or a form of Ministry are saying " Religion" are not the one's you should be joining. Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join. Be careful my brothers and sisters, who you are hearing. I myself trust the Living waters, The Bible, My Ministry (even if people don't want to hear the true message from God), And other NON DENOMINATIONAL ministries that are not Religious, But follows the heart of God's. we all have our own testimonies. Don't let it die just because no one can believe it... That testimony is for you and you alone with God. You know your saved, and people calling you a Liar? If God is not calling you a Liar, Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ.

Be strong in Christ my brothers/ sisters. God, Break our flesh and let the Spirit Rise in us! It is the Final hours of Grace.... It will fall soon... We must fight a great war now.

WE are THE CHOSEN GENERATIONS

The Ministry

Quote:

If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from.

Quote:

There is honestly nothing wrong with eating while a message is being said. This in itself I find a worldly thing is when people say, "You can't eat in church or during a sermon." And I generally say, "Why not?" Sure, in churches if it's distracting to others it's fine - but what would be wrong with having a potluck and the pastor preaching as well? There is nothing wrong with it. It's just that society has a set ideal that people should not eat while a pastor is preaching.

Although, Jesus taught while people ate - he reached out to people while they ate. He also reached out to people when they weren't eating. His focus was to reach out to everyone, no matter who they were or what they were doing at the time.

Well, if you noticed how people are really addicted by devices and things of this world that they are unable to continue in devotion for Christ, then that would be a problem. Yes, Jesus himself had preached while people ate, but they never had technology wink so basically they weren't distracted from the word of God. Which is why it is not " worldy". Its more worldy if your allowed to. Just look around those who puts their face in a text, video, and pornography. As well as televisions. If your pastors are calling against televisions, they know that God had declared "why?" (As you questioned). People who are followers of God never asked "why?" They just did it, as the good and faithful does wink

Quote:

I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians.

Quote:

Where may I find this?

Also, what it all boils down to is if the person's relationship is right with God. You may have a Catholic whose mind, body, and soul are all right with God, or someone of a different denomination. Sometimes there's that one person in that denomination that knows what's right, but feel held back from doing what is right.

It's when jerusalem was divided into nations. Forgot the verse. If the person's relationship is right with God, then they would
Be non denominal because they put their trust in Christ. Denominals are created with a set of trasitional laws, in which is why people are being held from what is right. Because it would goes against their "religion". Which is what God spoken against.

Quote:

He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE."

Quote:

Yes, Jesus did say, "I am the way and the truth and the life..." in John 14:6. Jesus is also part of the trinity - 3 distinct beings that operate as one. So in a sense, Jesus is God - even though he didn't say in his own words, "I am God."

Isn't that the reason why John 1:1 said the word was with God, the word was God and the word became flesh, because already that would say Jesus was God? We don't need to think too hard really XD God made it easier for us. Because He gave us his spirit. However, God was spirit, Son and father. Which would be Godhead in a saying. But be careful, this is why most people would fall. Because they think you have to serve all 3... not true at all.

Quote:

Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join.

Quote:

Yahweh and Elohim are both names for God. I don't see anything wrong with using them. Some of them are a bit more complicated to use in context because they are both of Hebrew origins. Elohim is complicated, but it a term that has been used for "God" in the Hebrew as well as meaning "god" in a general sense (it can be singular and plural) depending on context. Just because other cultures use the name "Yahweh" or "Elohim" for "God" or "Yeshua" for Jesus does not make them wrong. God was "Yahweh" and "Elohim" in text before the English wrote it as "God". "Yeshua" was written down before the English versions said "Jesus". Also, it doesn't make us wrong if we use the word "God" instead of Yahweh or Elohim, and it doesn't make us wrong if we say the work "Jesus" instead of Yeshua.

Yes, but as I recalled from ancient times, this name would be used in Demented rituals. And by a saying from a wise one, " If the name of the Lord is used as vanitory or has no power in dominion, that name should not be used in his Glory. However, yes, it is hebrew. But because of later times, hebrew was transformed to english by God himself =] knowing that the name was being used demonically. Surpirsingly it was fortold in revelations. God is Good.

Quote:

Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ

Those who transgress against us also have a chance of Salvation as well. Take Apostle Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) for example - he murdered Christians before he came to God. He imprisoned and killed Christians in his life so he was in sin for murdering people, especially those who were peoples of God. However, Paul did turn around. It shows Salvation is possible.

I never said "they will not find salvation" wink as stated, They will never find victory in Christ. It means that people will try to say I am of Christ and say I am right and things as such. Those kind of Christians are ambitious in their selfish ways and therefore will not find victory. Especially in Christ wink

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I never said "they will not find salvation"

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But this doesn't mean it wasn't implied somewhere.

It was never implied wink to imply something that was never foretold is assumption. Which would be dangerous of Judgement. If the words are not implied, do not add on to it. Which is why most people would be ambitious of doing. Which I can say, I had so many of this before. I was one of those as well. God stopped me.from that.

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as stated, They will never find victory in Christ.

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Saying, "They will never find victory in Christ." Let's examine that.The definition of "never" is:

adverb
1.not ever; at no time
2.not at all; absolutely not
3.to no extent or degree

Victory is defined as:

1. a success or triumph over an enemy in battle or war.
2.an engagement ending in such triumph
3.the ultimate and decisive superiority in any battle or contest
4.a success or superior position achieved against any opponent, opposition, difficulty, etc.: a moral victory.
5.( initial capital letter ) the ancient Roman goddess Victoria, often represented in statues or on coins as the personification of victory.

point proven by self ambitious standards. Now when i said never find victory in Christ, do not take those in a separation, other wise the idea would be contradicting. Now what I said and clearly stated but was not actually heeded " There are many counterfeit Christians who proclaims that they are righteous in their own self explanations and ways of Christ. If you your self are in a denomination and declares such, you will never have victory in Christ because you are selfish in your pride and ambitions.to see what is declared. Don't alter what is said because it leads up to misinterpreting a person's writing. Indeed not by spirit.
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I find your statements a bit contradicting.

If a person turns their life around for God completely and receive Salvation, there is nothing that says they will "never find victory in Christ." Now, if they don't change, and remain one way their entire lives not believing in Christ then they won't know Christ. However, there is always hope through God, and nothing is impossible through Him.

you find it contradicting because you would "put it in your own words wink " and incorrect, there were many who found salvation but has left it. It can last 10-30 years and then BAM, they lost their faith. Which is why it was said "It's not when you find faith alone that you are truly saved, it's when you endure until the end in my name that you are truly saved". Never had i once doubted his Glory, so basically what had you been interpreting? Xd I said what was said from the bible. I may not be verse memorized like.many, but God doesn't come for the equipped, he comes for those who knows they are unequipped and unable to do what is needed to do. Some of us are prepared because they research and do online studies. That's good and all. But why is it not being spirit led? All I know is that I am mostly spirit led. Because I know for a fact i am not equipped to handle anything intelligent. Or intellect in debates. But I am greatful. Because I do not waste time in those type of things because it is not of God to be prepared for answers. Jesus himself just used his words. And that's what I do. No reading online researchers. Just the Bible, the devotions and the music of Christ. My food and my drink are the words. Yeah XD I do not know how i am contradicting. But i do know is that you might had misinterpreted what I had said really =] not the first time i saw this.  

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Aside from the G.P.S guild mule "righteous idealism" ( and yes, He is also committing a cult due to the idea that he is connecting the well Guild as the "popular Guild for a real Christian" when clearly they fall under the term legalism", and yes, I too had their lies driven out of their mouths in a "rhetorical" and "disrespectful" manner of non compassionate ideals given and appointed by their Captain, and yes I tried to speak with the captain and he denied me when i brought up a warning to him about his Guild and was declared that i was bashful), I believe A real Church are the ones who are not trying to gain people, but they are trying to gain Christ. Popularity are less to the true Churches. However, If God gave them a calling to it from their Anguish, and anguish is being the pain of God's heart ( which is the reason my Guild was created in the front of this Guild, I thank the one whom placed it there =) ), I believe God will take your prayers and move you to that kind of Church.

I am currently at Times square Church, A church that is really in deep anguish for God. We have a lot of fellowship, but when God's words hits the deck, We're on DECK ( XD it was said by a minister in the service). I think these churches that are heart broken and praying to seek God's face. Praying in anguish and sorrow for this world and Just purely calling out to Jesus to strong that you yourself had to cry, Then that Church is not of the world's. I seen how churches can get people in. saying Jokes, saying punch lines, saying good things about God. saying a nice smooth message... FORGETTING about the LOVE of CHRIST and not even praying on their faces to God and saying "I NEED YOU". If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from. Because those Churches are for the world.

I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians. One goes to baptist, one goes to catholic, one goes in Islam, one goes to Buddha, one goes to the twelve paths, E.T.C... God himself said not to compromise nor to moderate Him. IT IS ALL OUT OR NOTHING AT ALL. God said from his point (and I am interpreting this) If I am your life, where are your prayers? where is your Love for me? where is my anguish in you? why are you not seeking out my face? why are you not devoted in my words? why are you not broken in flesh and gaining my spirit? why are you just buying time? when everyone around you will die and burn? where is your motivation at if i am not your motivation? Where? why are you seeking for the things of this earth? If i have something better here, in heaven?

See we care to Just take it easy. Play it soft. Accept people for who they are. Sure, Jesus himself done that. But He did not delay salvation. He offers it as a revelation. He doesn't moderate. He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE." He follows the will of his father. In anguish daily. In prayer daily. Being the living bible as declared in John 1:1.

Don't look for a Church that lets you do what you want. Look for a Church that is on fire for God. Sadly, not many are out there.... But In Jesus name, there will be those few that God will shake your spirit and will tell you, This is MY Church. If your spirit isn't convicted or shaken by the words preached by the pastor, It is NOT of God's and it will be sick, especially to those who are on fire for God.

A video from the Greatest pastor David Wilkerson to call those Churches out.
a power warning of David Wilkerson.

Which Church/ Guild/ ministries would you believe? There is a Choice. A church, Guild or a form of Ministry are saying " Religion" are not the one's you should be joining. Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join. Be careful my brothers and sisters, who you are hearing. I myself trust the Living waters, The Bible, My Ministry (even if people don't want to hear the true message from God), And other NON DENOMINATIONAL ministries that are not Religious, But follows the heart of God's. we all have our own testimonies. Don't let it die just because no one can believe it... That testimony is for you and you alone with God. You know your saved, and people calling you a Liar? If God is not calling you a Liar, Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ.

Be strong in Christ my brothers/ sisters. God, Break our flesh and let the Spirit Rise in us! It is the Final hours of Grace.... It will fall soon... We must fight a great war now.

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If your church don't mind phones, brings food just for a nice time during a service, and is denominational, These Church you will find and will have to walk away from.

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There is honestly nothing wrong with eating while a message is being said. This in itself I find a worldly thing is when people say, "You can't eat in church or during a sermon." And I generally say, "Why not?" Sure, in churches if it's distracting to others it's fine - but what would be wrong with having a potluck and the pastor preaching as well? There is nothing wrong with it. It's just that society has a set ideal that people should not eat while a pastor is preaching.

Although, Jesus taught while people ate - he reached out to people while they ate. He also reached out to people when they weren't eating. His focus was to reach out to everyone, no matter who they were or what they were doing at the time.

Well, if you noticed how people are really addicted by devices and things of this world that they are unable to continue in devotion for Christ, then that would be a problem. Yes, Jesus himself had preached while people ate, but they never had technology wink so basically they weren't distracted from the word of God. Which is why it is not " worldy". Its more worldy if your allowed to. Just look around those who puts their face in a text, video, and pornography. As well as televisions. If your pastors are calling against televisions, they know that God had declared "why?" (As you questioned). People who are followers of God never asked "why?" They just did it, as the good and faithful does wink

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I read this in the bible called "divisions of the people in Christ". It states why denominations are destroying Christians.

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Where may I find this?

Also, what it all boils down to is if the person's relationship is right with God. You may have a Catholic whose mind, body, and soul are all right with God, or someone of a different denomination. Sometimes there's that one person in that denomination that knows what's right, but feel held back from doing what is right.

It's when jerusalem was divided into nations. Forgot the verse. If the person's relationship is right with God, then they would
Be non denominal because they put their trust in Christ. Denominals are created with a set of trasitional laws, in which is why people are being held from what is right. Because it would goes against their "religion". Which is what God spoken against.

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He doesn't say " I AM GOD", no, he says " I am the TRUTH, WAY, and LIFE."

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Yes, Jesus did say, "I am the way and the truth and the life..." in John 14:6. Jesus is also part of the trinity - 3 distinct beings that operate as one. So in a sense, Jesus is God - even though he didn't say in his own words, "I am God."

Isn't that the reason why John 1:1 said the word was with God, the word was God and the word became flesh, because already that would say Jesus was God? We don't need to think too hard really XD God made it easier for us. Because He gave us his spirit. However, God was spirit, Son and father. Which would be Godhead in a saying. But be careful, this is why most people would fall. Because they think you have to serve all 3... not true at all.

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Those who say Yahweh, Elohim, or any form of God names and God had been telling you That those are not His name, Do not Join.

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Yahweh and Elohim are both names for God. I don't see anything wrong with using them. Some of them are a bit more complicated to use in context because they are both of Hebrew origins. Elohim is complicated, but it a term that has been used for "God" in the Hebrew as well as meaning "god" in a general sense (it can be singular and plural) depending on context. Just because other cultures use the name "Yahweh" or "Elohim" for "God" or "Yeshua" for Jesus does not make them wrong. God was "Yahweh" and "Elohim" in text before the English wrote it as "God". "Yeshua" was written down before the English versions said "Jesus". Also, it doesn't make us wrong if we use the word "God" instead of Yahweh or Elohim, and it doesn't make us wrong if we say the work "Jesus" instead of Yeshua.

Yes, but as I recalled from ancient times, this name would be used in Demented rituals. And by a saying from a wise one, " If the name of the Lord is used as vanitory or has no power in dominion, that name should not be used in his Glory. However, yes, it is hebrew. But because of later times, hebrew was transformed to english by God himself =] knowing that the name was being used demonically. Surpirsingly it was fortold in revelations. God is Good.

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Then those to transgress against you, shall never find victory in Christ

Those who transgress against us also have a chance of Salvation as well. Take Apostle Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) for example - he murdered Christians before he came to God. He imprisoned and killed Christians in his life so he was in sin for murdering people, especially those who were peoples of God. However, Paul did turn around. It shows Salvation is possible.

I never said "they will not find salvation" wink as stated, They will never find victory in Christ. It means that people will try to say I am of Christ and say I am right and things as such. Those kind of Christians are ambitious in their selfish ways and therefore will not find victory. Especially in Christ wink

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I never said "they will not find salvation"

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But this doesn't mean it wasn't implied somewhere.

It was never implied wink to imply something that was never foretold is assumption. Which would be dangerous of Judgement. If the words are not implied, do not add on to it. Which is why most people would be ambitious of doing. Which I can say, I had so many of this before. I was one of those as well. God stopped me.from that.

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as stated, They will never find victory in Christ.

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Saying, "They will never find victory in Christ." Let's examine that.The definition of "never" is:

adverb
1.not ever; at no time
2.not at all; absolutely not
3.to no extent or degree

Victory is defined as:

1. a success or triumph over an enemy in battle or war.
2.an engagement ending in such triumph
3.the ultimate and decisive superiority in any battle or contest
4.a success or superior position achieved against any opponent, opposition, difficulty, etc.: a moral victory.
5.( initial capital letter ) the ancient Roman goddess Victoria, often represented in statues or on coins as the personification of victory.

point proven by self ambitious standards. Now when i said never find victory in Christ, do not take those in a separation, other wise the idea would be contradicting. Now what I said and clearly stated but was not actually heeded " There are many counterfeit Christians who proclaims that they are righteous in their own self explanations and ways of Christ. If you your self are in a denomination and declares such, you will never have victory in Christ because you are selfish in your pride and ambitions.to see what is declared. Don't alter what is said because it leads up to misinterpreting a person's writing. Indeed not by spirit.
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I find your statements a bit contradicting.

If a person turns their life around for God completely and receive Salvation, there is nothing that says they will "never find victory in Christ." Now, if they don't change, and remain one way their entire lives not believing in Christ then they won't know Christ. However, there is always hope through God, and nothing is impossible through Him.

you find it contradicting because you would "put it in your own words wink " and incorrect, there were many who found salvation but has left it. It can last 10-30 years and then BAM, they lost their faith. Which is why it was said "It's not when you find faith alone that you are truly saved, it's when you endure until the end in my name that you are truly saved". Never had i once doubted his Glory, so basically what had you been interpreting? Xd I said what was said from the bible. I may not be verse memorized like.many, but God doesn't come for the equipped, he comes for those who knows they are unequipped and unable to do what is needed to do. Some of us are prepared because they research and do online studies. That's good and all. But why is it not being spirit led? All I know is that I am mostly spirit led. Because I know for a fact i am not equipped to handle anything intelligent. Or intellect in debates. But I am greatful. Because I do not waste time in those type of things because it is not of God to be prepared for answers. Jesus himself just used his words. And that's what I do. No reading online researchers. Just the Bible, the devotions and the music of Christ. My food and my drink are the words. Yeah XD I do not know how i am contradicting. But i do know is that you might had misinterpreted what I had said really =] not the first time i saw this.

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Never had i once doubted his Glory, so basically what had you been interpreting?

I had never said you doubted His Glory. I am just trying to take the confusion out of what I find to be a confusing statement by asking questions.

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God doesn't come for the equipped, he comes for those who knows they are unequipped and unable to do what is needed to do.

What do you mean by this?

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Because I do not waste time in those type of things because it is not of God to be prepared for answers.

1 Peter 3:15 NIV:

But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

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There is nothing wrong with using online Bible tools to do research. They have the Bible in multiple versions on sites and there are various tools that are great to use! Some people may not have a Strong's Concordance at home or a certain version of the Bible so they can look it up online from a trusted resource. There's nothing wrong with using Bible tools online, just as there is nothing wrong with pulling the Bible off of your own bookshelf.  

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Well, if you noticed how people are really addicted by devices and things of this world that they are unable to continue in devotion for Christ, then that would be a problem. Yes, Jesus himself had preached while people ate, but they never had technology wink so basically they weren't distracted from the word of God. Which is why it is not " worldy". Its more worldy if your allowed to. Just look around those who puts their face in a text, video, and pornography. As well as televisions. If your pastors are calling against televisions, they know that God had declared "why?" (As you questioned). People who are followers of God never asked "why?" They just did it, as the good and faithful does wink


It's when jerusalem was divided into nations. Forgot the verse. If the person's relationship is right with God, then they would
Be non denominal because they put their trust in Christ. Denominals are created with a set of trasitional laws, in which is why people are being held from what is right. Because it would goes against their "religion". Which is what God spoken against.


Isn't that the reason why John 1:1 said the word was with God, the word was God and the word became flesh, because already that would say Jesus was God? We don't need to think too hard really XD God made it easier for us. Because He gave us his spirit. However, God was spirit, Son and father. Which would be Godhead in a saying. But be careful, this is why most people would fall. Because they think you have to serve all 3... not true at all.


Yes, but as I recalled from ancient times, this name would be used in Demented rituals. And by a saying from a wise one, " If the name of the Lord is used as vanitory or has no power in dominion, that name should not be used in his Glory. However, yes, it is hebrew. But because of later times, hebrew was transformed to english by God himself =] knowing that the name was being used demonically. Surpirsingly it was fortold in revelations. God is Good.



Those who transgress against us also have a chance of Salvation as well. Take Apostle Paul (originally Saul of Tarsus) for example - he murdered Christians before he came to God. He imprisoned and killed Christians in his life so he was in sin for murdering people, especially those who were peoples of God. However, Paul did turn around. It shows Salvation is possible.

I never said "they will not find salvation" wink as stated, They will never find victory in Christ. It means that people will try to say I am of Christ and say I am right and things as such. Those kind of Christians are ambitious in their selfish ways and therefore will not find victory. Especially in Christ wink

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I never said "they will not find salvation"

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But this doesn't mean it wasn't implied somewhere.

It was never implied wink to imply something that was never foretold is assumption. Which would be dangerous of Judgement. If the words are not implied, do not add on to it. Which is why most people would be ambitious of doing. Which I can say, I had so many of this before. I was one of those as well. God stopped me.from that.

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as stated, They will never find victory in Christ.

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Saying, "They will never find victory in Christ." Let's examine that.The definition of "never" is:

adverb
1.not ever; at no time
2.not at all; absolutely not
3.to no extent or degree

Victory is defined as:

1. a success or triumph over an enemy in battle or war.
2.an engagement ending in such triumph
3.the ultimate and decisive superiority in any battle or contest
4.a success or superior position achieved against any opponent, opposition, difficulty, etc.: a moral victory.
5.( initial capital letter ) the ancient Roman goddess Victoria, often represented in statues or on coins as the personification of victory.

point proven by self ambitious standards. Now when i said never find victory in Christ, do not take those in a separation, other wise the idea would be contradicting. Now what I said and clearly stated but was not actually heeded " There are many counterfeit Christians who proclaims that they are righteous in their own self explanations and ways of Christ. If you your self are in a denomination and declares such, you will never have victory in Christ because you are selfish in your pride and ambitions.to see what is declared. Don't alter what is said because it leads up to misinterpreting a person's writing. Indeed not by spirit.
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I find your statements a bit contradicting.

If a person turns their life around for God completely and receive Salvation, there is nothing that says they will "never find victory in Christ." Now, if they don't change, and remain one way their entire lives not believing in Christ then they won't know Christ. However, there is always hope through God, and nothing is impossible through Him.

you find it contradicting because you would "put it in your own words wink " and incorrect, there were many who found salvation but has left it. It can last 10-30 years and then BAM, they lost their faith. Which is why it was said "It's not when you find faith alone that you are truly saved, it's when you endure until the end in my name that you are truly saved". Never had i once doubted his Glory, so basically what had you been interpreting? Xd I said what was said from the bible. I may not be verse memorized like.many, but God doesn't come for the equipped, he comes for those who knows they are unequipped and unable to do what is needed to do. Some of us are prepared because they research and do online studies. That's good and all. But why is it not being spirit led? All I know is that I am mostly spirit led. Because I know for a fact i am not equipped to handle anything intelligent. Or intellect in debates. But I am greatful. Because I do not waste time in those type of things because it is not of God to be prepared for answers. Jesus himself just used his words. And that's what I do. No reading online researchers. Just the Bible, the devotions and the music of Christ. My food and my drink are the words. Yeah XD I do not know how i am contradicting. But i do know is that you might had misinterpreted what I had said really =] not the first time i saw this.

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Never had i once doubted his Glory, so basically what had you been interpreting?

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I had never said you doubted His Glory. I am just trying to take the confusion out of what I find to be a confusing statement by asking questions.

It's good to ask questions. Just don't misinterpret the answer given wink

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God doesn't come for the equipped, he comes for those who knows they are unequipped and unable to do what is needed to do.

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What do you mean by this?

Good question. To answer you this, would be those who were Chosen by God themselves. All their replies to God were usually "I can't", " I am unsure", or " I am not ready. In which God said "Fear not for I will be with you". See you can be equipped, but what can God do for you if you already seem to know? Would be my answer.

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Because I do not waste time in those type of things because it is not of God to be prepared for answers.

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1 Peter 3:15 NIV:

But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

Equipped by The spirit is the verse saying. It doesn't mean to be equipped, it means to be diligent to the Lord and he will provide answers
For you. But don't make it like pins and needles trying to kill the person XD that is being forceful to them. Which is not edifying.

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No reading online researchers.

There is nothing wrong with using online Bible tools to do research. They have the Bible in multiple versions on sites and there are various tools that are great to use! Some people may not have a Strong's Concordance at home or a certain version of the Bible so they can look it up online from a trusted resource. There's nothing wrong with using Bible tools online, just as there is nothing wrong with pulling the Bible off of your own bookshelf.

did I say Bible reference or online study reference by "researchers"? Again you had misinterpreted me wink never said bible study was a problem. XD  

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Edit: fir? What the heck XD fit*