[S] Cool Downs

[Kamiki]

I also crazy loved the "One ticket per person" type breeding raffle. I wouldn't mind something that limited you to only winning your "ticket" once per month (but your partners could still enter). But I'm not fond of increasing the cooldown with breedings or limiting the number of baskets people can give you. From my experience, sometimes you get really lucky one month and it feels "when it rains it pours" - I would hate to not be able to give a basket I'd been waiting to give a good a friend of mine just because they happened to win their own two breedings that month.

Customs - As for cooldowns, the # of tries vs time thing gets kind of complicated with Staff Credits - thats the only real problem I have with it. For example, I got Spinel in Feb from SC...so how would that effect when I can go for custom again if it was based on # of tries? But at the same time, the timing thing has its downtime, too. I had to sit out of Neza's slots because I got a custom in Feb, but since custom's aren't regular - who knows how long it will be until the next custom opening?

My thoughts previously on cooldowns mostly came down to the rarity slots in customs. I think SuperRare slots should have cooldowns. For example - I think you should only in one Super Rare slot in customs every 6 months - 1 year. This WOULD NOT effect your ability to enter customs after the standard cooldown time, just you have to go for something other than Super Rare.

Limiting the number of tries with freebies gets complicated only because you really don't know what's coming in the future. I mean, I would be upset if I won a freebie that I loved, but then two months from now i REALLY AMAZING came up that I was forced to sit out on. With customs and breedings you kind of know what to expect, but freebies you don't. /personal opinion

Ultimately the supply is NEVER going to reach the demand no matter what the staff does. /sadface (not for lack of trying, the staff are only human the demand is just ....huge)  

[StarieMichie]

The only part of this I don't like is the section on breedings. I wouldn't not like it to always be a "enter all your couples" thing. Also, I wouldn't want my breeding partners to get penalized for six breeding raffles just because one of my other couples won. Yes, they could still enter, but that only hurts their odds more that I'm not entering. One of my breeding partners isn't even active on Gaia anymore, and the other two aren't really active in Soq. confused There are also singles raffles that kind of would throw this idea off some. I mean, what's the fun in singles raffles if you can essentially always throw all of your Soq in random pairings every raffle?

I'd say keep breedings the same, but give them a cool down number similar to the way you suggested customs.  

[Mameha Otome]

I don't mind the current breeding system as it is, I really just wanna see more LL slots come from it. Though I really did like the idea of the 'enter all your couples ever' breeding event.

That aside, I do kind of like the suggestion for the customs cool down. Perhaps not quite so long...I'd go with 2-3 rounds of customs rather. Because I know what you're talking about in people who won in Neza's Nov customs were eligible again to win once more in Neza's March customs, with no other custom chance between.

So changing a 2 month cool down to...2-3 custom opening cool down would definitely give others a chance, and staff credits still don't count against you since they are a gift the majority of the time.

Again, there is the factor of supply vs demand and with the colorists having lives that can't be fixed. It's just something we have to deal with and understand, so maybe the cool down of waiting 2-3 custom periods really could work out better than 2 months in order to give more people a chance at winning that are otherwise losing to repeat winners because of RNG.  

[Kamiki]

LydaLynn

For freebies - the argument has always been that there might be something really awesome. I understand the argument. At the same time - every person gets to choose to take a freebie or not, to gamble on an possible future or take what they can. It's the same thing with events. You have to choose and maybe miss out. But saying 'oh I can't try for x because I have y' just seems . . . the only word that comes to mind is greedy - but it is a harsher word than I really want. The person who won a freebie - WON A FREEBIE! To complain that they already have a pet so they can't try for another one when there are so very many people who don't manage to win a single pet in a year outside of possibly getting CYOs? Yes, it's a gamble, but you can either take the sure thing or miss out because you might see something better later. I would always default to the sure thing, personally. Someone else might not. But either way, you have the choice, the opportunity. And if you won, complaining that you can't have all the ponies is just . . .

Right, and I agree to a point. But if the cooldown is "5 tries" then that could be anything from ...2 months to a year or more. I think that's a bit harsh. Especially because the BIG events they hold a couple time a year are REALLY FUN. So limiting your freebies to 1/month or 1/event is perfectly reasonable. But happening to win a freebie raffle in one month, and then two months later there's a giant event that you have to sit out would be a huge bummer.
 

[Ktns]

Im not sure exactly how this would work, but when it comes to events the whole 'you can win 1 of this, 1 of that, 1 of that, etc'.... there are many large events where people walk out with 3 or more pets and some walk out with none... over all the other events in this shop those are the ones I feel could most def be helped with some evening out. Though how that would work with some CD altering, idk?  

[Kamiki]

I think the one paid / one free / one auction works pretty well for events.

My biggest pet peeve with that if the flatsale/flaffles that cost like 6K if you win and therefore don't count against your "freebie" count. That bugs me. That should could as your freebie during events imho.  

[Sabin Duvert]

My only thought is that flaffles (like where soquili are 6k) should just be free and count as your monthly freebie. They frequently happen at the same time as the BIG events (that limit you to 3 soquili: 1 freebie, 1 paid raffle, and 1 auction) - but adding in a 6k flaffle that actually makes it possible for somoene to get one of those AND a freebie from the event (or even 4 from the event as a whole). I think especially with the events, you should spread the love as much as possible and include the flaffle as freebies.

My only other thought also has to do with the big events - that usually there has been a free raffle at the end for people who got NO soquili from any aspect from the event. I think it might be neat that instead of everyone just getting 1 ticket, including people who wander in at the end of the event, or never really tried for anything, to give everyone 1 ticket for each attempt they tried (every contest they didn't win, every raffle they entered, etc). (But still be only for people who otherwise got NOTHING).

EDIT - Lol, I didn't know Kamiki was typing in the same idea at the same time XD  

[Kamiki]

Sabin Duvert

My only other thought also has to do with the big events - that usually there has been a free raffle at the end for people who got NO soquili from any aspect from the event. I think it might be neat that instead of everyone just getting 1 ticket, including people who wander in at the end of the event, or never really tried for anything, to give everyone 1 ticket for each attempt they tried (every contest they didn't win, every raffle they entered, etc).

THIS  

[Laroawan]

I really like the idea of changing the cooldown for customs specifically to number of custom raffles you have to sit out of considering how few opportunities there are in one year atm. Judging by the number of custom raffles available last year, which was nine (and two of those were minis only), I think a reasonable cooldown could be 4-5 raffles, or approximately half a year.

Changing cooldowns on breedings is a lot harder because your ability to enter a breeding affects your partners ability to enter and for some people with a small number of couples you may end up penalizing new people when their partners win. I'd rather leave cooldowns as is for breedings.

I don't think the freebie cooldown should be extended but definitely would suggest another look taken at how many Soquili can be won from a single large shop event. As has been said it is not uncommon for some people to walk out with 3 (+) and many others to walk out with 0 at the end. I'm not sure how to solve that fairly but I do like Sabin's idea of having freebie raffles where your tickets are for the number of events you were unsuccesful in.  

[[.Silvr-Moon.]]

I'm sorry that this post in response will be rather short, but I'm still quite tired and I know when I am in this busy and drowsy state of mind, I can't articulate my thought process the best! D;

But anyway, I must say I do support this idea! With the ever increasing popularity of the shop, many, many newbies and oldies are always swiftly joining each event of customs and breedings and such, giving everyone who enters lower chances of being either CC'd or simply rolled. As much as I love this shop to pieces, I get really intimidated and discouraged from trying to enter such events because of the sheer number of users applying for slots. I've been decently active in trying to enter customs, for it is the most reasonable route of trying to receive a new soquili since early 2008, and even with all of my earnest attempts to join such things, I only have one Soquili mare ever since 2008, my fourth year anniversary for obtaining my very first (and only) one passing in December.

Anyway, due to how spread out custom and breeding openings are, I almost feel as if it quite doesn't matter much to those who win the slots, for the very next time one seems to open up the cool down period of the x amount of months has passed, and they are free to enter again. Customs more so than breedings, however, for like the first post has said, they only seem to happen 2-3 times a year or so.

And for raffles, I completely agree with the first post! That is paid chances per ticket, which is a little different than entering for free for a chance for a slot.

I really apologize if my post doesn't make the most amount of sense or comes across as some sort of whining post, for that is not my intention in the least. I am simply trying to use an example to try and help me explain my point of view is all~! 3nodding  

[Regal Renegade]

I agree that the cool down periods for customs need to change. As has been said many times before, the current cool down periods were well suited toward the time when there were two or three customs a month but that is no longer the case. The entire point of a cool down is to rotate some people who just had their dreams realized out so someone else could have a shot at theirs, and that is not happening anymore. I have been trying for a custom for four years now and honestly, feel a little let down. I see the same people winning over and over again and it is a little disheartening. I mean, I have been waiting the same time span it takes for one to graduate high school for goodness sake. (Know that is kind of whiney, sorry). And I just feel that something needs to change whether that be LL customs or extended/numbered cool down times. Not just for me but for others who have waited this long. This was all typed on my phone so please forgive the limited explanations and spelling errors. I just felt I needed to say something.