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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:18 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:01 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:56 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:21 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:28 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:15 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:53 am
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MaeIstrom Matasoga To be fair, (unless it was editted after the fact to what it is now) all he said was "Sins don't exist," not "Your god is dead!" or anything else that might be construed as any sort of attack... Just something that theists are likely to disagree with. I mean... I get the need for unity, and agree that it is important, but even what people sometimes call "religious tolerance" only goes so far as saying things like "hate the sinner, not the sin." As a straight guy I have no business airing my grievances here, but I think that the targets of persecution ought to be entitled to a little "hate the theism, not the theist." ...Though I can see how that could turn ugly left unchecked. I'm a Deist. That means I believe in God. Thanks all, Good night. Yes, I saw that. I'm also well familiar with Deism and the watchmaker theory. I'm not entirely sure why you mention that again, as it's not as though being a theist prevents you from being condemned by other theists... But that's rather beside the point.
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:52 am
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Matasoga MaeIstrom Matasoga To be fair, (unless it was editted after the fact to what it is now) all he said was "Sins don't exist," not "Your god is dead!" or anything else that might be construed as any sort of attack... Just something that theists are likely to disagree with. I mean... I get the need for unity, and agree that it is important, but even what people sometimes call "religious tolerance" only goes so far as saying things like "hate the sinner, not the sin." As a straight guy I have no business airing my grievances here, but I think that the targets of persecution ought to be entitled to a little "hate the theism, not the theist." ...Though I can see how that could turn ugly left unchecked. I'm a Deist. That means I believe in God. Thanks all, Good night. Yes, I saw that. I'm also well familiar with Deism and the watchmaker theory. I'm not entirely sure why you mention that again, as it's not as though being a theist prevents you from being condemned by other theists... But that's rather beside the point.
But I'm Deist. ;n;
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:57 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:19 am
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Matasoga To be fair, (unless it was editted after the fact to what it is now) all he said was "Sins don't exist," not "Your god is dead!" or anything else that might be construed as any sort of attack... Just something that theists are likely to disagree with. Neither of us said that the OP was attacking anything; if he had been, it would have been removed. Der Fluch was just being proactive, considering that in the past, threads about religion have turned ugly very quickly. His post was, in my opinion, meant as a reminder to subsequent posters to keep things civil.
My own post was in response to the question OP presented, "And what about religions that teach people to slaughter those who practice homosexuality, though? I've heard quite a few... ".
Quote: I mean... I get the need for unity, and agree that it is important, but even what people sometimes call "religious tolerance" only goes so far as saying things like "hate the sinner, not the sin." As a straight guy I have no business airing my grievances here, but I think that the targets of persecution ought to be entitled to a little "hate the theism, not the theist." ...Though I can see how that could turn ugly left unchecked. You're as welcome to air any grievances as anyone else. razz We aren't saying that people aren't entitled to feel that way. We've simply taken this stance because users would come here, vent their spleen about religion by making damning generalizations, and in doing so insult and belittle a number of their fellow guild-members.
What it boils down to is that there is a huge difference between conversation like, "The church-goers in my town have said hateful things to me, and I can't stand them for it." and unhelpful statements like, "Christians are all bigots/stupid/hateful." The former is welcome, the latter is not.
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:21 pm
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Matasoga MaeIstrom Matasoga To be fair, (unless it was editted after the fact to what it is now) all he said was "Sins don't exist," not "Your god is dead!" or anything else that might be construed as any sort of attack... Just something that theists are likely to disagree with. I mean... I get the need for unity, and agree that it is important, but even what people sometimes call "religious tolerance" only goes so far as saying things like "hate the sinner, not the sin." As a straight guy I have no business airing my grievances here, but I think that the targets of persecution ought to be entitled to a little "hate the theism, not the theist." ...Though I can see how that could turn ugly left unchecked. I'm a Deist. That means I believe in God. Thanks all, Good night. Yes, I saw that. I'm also well familiar with Deism and the watchmaker theory. I'm not entirely sure why you mention that again, as it's not as though being a theist prevents you from being condemned by other theists... But that's rather beside the point.
Actually, Deism is apart from most other examples of Theism.
Our beliefs are, indeed, marginalized by the majority of both atheists and theists, who believe one must be one or the other or agnostic. I'm oftentimes condemned for apostasy from the Catholic Church as well as abandoning my faith in Jesus Christ alone.
But yeah, hate the theism, not the theist.... Unless they're being an a*****e because I don't conform to them.
But that applies to atheists as well.
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:15 am
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:03 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:53 pm
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:40 pm
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