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Prostitution and stripping legal : Yes or No

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Miss_XxAriaxX

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:45 pm
I know stripping is legal, but I really dislike that people will get nude and entertain for money. I did a little research and strippers can do other stuff than just dancing, they can rub their body against their clients etc. It's their choice. I just feel it's so wrong to sell your body like that.

Making prostitution legal is a BIG NO for me. I feel it's disgusting and so wrong to give your body to a somebody for MONEY.

Prostitution is a world of problems, some people have been forced into this, but some people do it by choice and those people I really don't understand them.  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:12 pm
Personally, I feel that if the profession is legal and someone wants to do that, then it isn't my choice if they should or not. No one should be able to dictate someone else' life and that's what is being done by telling people that they can't sell themselves for money. It's their body, their life, and their choice.

Prostitution. being illegal, shouldn't be done because it breaks laws. If it was legal I would have the same stance on it as I do on stripping.

The only way I have an actual opinion toward either is if they personally effect me in some way, which they currently don't.

My SO/Fiance/Husband/GF/Wife/Whatever is paying for sex or strip teases, then yes, there would be an issue there, but not with the person doing their job. Since not everyone has the same moral compass it isn't right to force your own onto others.  


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:37 am
Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:27 pm
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Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.

                        You summed that up perfectly ^.^
 

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:56 pm
I think prostitution should be legal and licensed, with mandatory health checks and blood tests. After all, pornographic movies are legal, and the "actors" have to get tested at least four times a year (I think).  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:29 pm
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Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.


Thank you for being a great voice of reason. I couldn't have said it better myself. And great job mentioning that it would utterly wreck sex slavery since there'd be willing, legal people.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:58 pm
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Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.


Thank you for being a great voice of reason. I couldn't have said it better myself. And great job mentioning that it would utterly wreck sex slavery since there'd be willing, legal people.


People that go into the sex trade because they can't financially support themselves maybe the only gray area, but you still can regulate psychiatric evaluations to gather full consent.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:21 pm
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Personally, I feel that if the profession is legal and someone wants to do that, then it isn't my choice if they should or not. No one should be able to dictate someone else' life and that's what is being done by telling people that they can't sell themselves for money. It's their body, their life, and their choice.

Prostitution. being illegal, shouldn't be done because it breaks laws. If it was legal I would have the same stance on it as I do on stripping.

The only way I have an actual opinion toward either is if they personally effect me in some way, which they currently don't.

My SO/Fiance/Husband/GF/Wife/Whatever is paying for sex or strip teases, then yes, there would be an issue there, but not with the person doing their job. Since not everyone has the same moral compass it isn't right to force your own onto others.
What if your learn that your boyfriend or girlfriend is a stripper ? Would you break up?  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:27 pm
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Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.
Interesting perspective. I would be offended too if my boyfriend was paying for sex, but if he did it when he was single, I won't feel OK neither.. @_@... I just can't accept the fact that people sell that service and people getting the service.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:03 pm
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Being forced into it is when it should become illegal. Though a lot of people consider that sex slavery. Which it is illegal.

Prostitution is just selling a service, you can't sell your body but you can sell a service that your body happens to perform.

It's far better legalizing it, because you can clean up the trade that way, offer regulation on condom use, penalize people for not disclosing disease, you also probably get a better chance at finding the people forced into it, (you get the people that want to, the people that are being forced are no longer of value for the trade.)

likewise if my boyfriend was paying for sex from one I would be offended with him, but not prostitution.
Interesting perspective. I would be offended too if my boyfriend was paying for sex, but if he did it when he was single, I won't feel OK neither.. @_@... I just can't accept the fact that people sell that service and people getting the service.


I don't hold anything against a person for what they did in the past. If they're honest and take responsibility for any mistakes made. Disclose if they have any diseases, offspring, and anything else that may effect the relationship down the line. Everything can be worked through. I prefer not to know all the details of the partners sexual past. But the parts that are important I do want to know.  

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:08 am
I don't know all of the details, and I'd have to do some more serious research than I have in order to provide solid evidence and facts but statistically speaking areas where prostitution are legalized have lower STD rates and here's why:

People are going to pay for sex whether it's legal or not. That's a terrible thing to think, maybe, but it's true. By legalizing prostitution the government is able to monitor it. One of the worst parts of prostitution is the forced prostitution and trafficking of kidnap victims. If it were legalized, all prostitutes would be hired legally and registered with the government (there would probably still be a black market of underage, forced prostitutes but that's technically a separate issue to be discussed under human trafficking). In areas where prostitutions is legal, the women and men working for these businesses are regularly tested, treated medically, and given working benefits. They make an hones living, have healthcare, and are not doing anything to harm society in the long run.

A lot of people think of prostitution as a terrible place for women to end up when they have nowhere else to turn, like in Les Miserables. But in reality a lot of sex workers are satisfied with their jobs. They see it as use of their assets and as long as they are safe and free to change careers if they want, they don't mind. Legalizing prostitution would make it a safe work environment for many women who will prostitute legally or not. It's like abortion: people will do it anyways, the question of legality is actually a question of safety. So, yes, I do believe in legalizing prostitution. Let's make it a safer business for both workers and customers.

Stripping is, as you pointed out, legal. I have known people who strip, and I think ultimately the bad associations it has are mostly from, like prostitution, unhealthy situations in which it has emerged. There are some strip clubs where the women are heavily exploited, terribly paid, possibly molested by their bosses, etc. Those are terrible places that should be closed for the safety of the workers.
However, there are places where women who feel confident and empowered by stripping, and who need/want the money it provides, can freely engage in stripping and the activities associated with the job. It's only when managers/customers/anyone else takes advantage of the workers that a strip club becomes dangerous and unhealthy.
Proper precautions can be taken and good regulations set in place on strip clubs to prevent things like spread of disease and taking advantage of the workers (male and female because there are male strip clubs as well). Ultimately, it'll happen either way, like prostitution, so I feel that it's important to just regulate it and make it safe for the people who choose that as a work path.

I, personally, do not want to be a stripper or a prostitute. But it's not because I feel those jobs are wrong or gross or terrible; it's only because I have other plans for my life. As I (think) I said above, I've known strippers and people who worked in places like that who were perfectly happy with where they were at the time. Unfortunately, as a college student, it's expected; college is expensive and a lot of girls end up working a few years in a strip club to pay for it. I am fortunate enough to not have ended up in such a situation yet.
There are sex workers in this world, though, who are totally happy with their job. Some temporarily, others for a long, long time. I think the important thing is to make these jobs safer for these people so they can continue to do them without fearing anything.
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:59 am
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You have a great insight.  

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