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Caffeine: Convergently Evolved or Creatively Provided

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Lady Vizsla

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:40 am
Did caffeine evolve again and again or did our Common Designer provide many plants with the genes to make it?

Coffee—love it or hate it—it affects your life, and even your language. Whether you start your day with “Coffee, black”1 or take your “coffee break” at the water cooler, whether you occasionally chat “over coffee” or get frequent-flyer-miles from your coffee shop app, whether you contribute to the economic welfare of millions who depend on coffee as their cash crop, argue Brits get a better buzz from tea, or believe “Things go better with Coke™”—the key chemical in “the most traded commodity after oil”2 has some impact on your life. Now an international team of researchers has sequenced coffee’s genome and concluded that convergent evolution produced caffeine more than once.

Caffeine is found in a dizzying variety of plants including coffee trees, tea bushes, yerba maté, cacao, kola, guarana, and even citrus trees. (The nectar of orange and grapefruit blossoms is caffeinated, as is the nectar of more familiar caffeine-producers, pleasing bees who come back for more.) The researchers sequenced Coffea canephora, the diploid “robusta” species that supplies nearly a third of the world’s coffee crop. Coffea canephorais one of the two parents of the hybrid tetraploid species Coffea arabica, which makes up most of the rest.3

Caffeine, a natural plant alkaloid, is the most popular and morally acceptable psychoactive substance in the world. Carl Zimmer of the New York Times writes, “Caffeine may be a drug, but it’s not the product of some underworld chemistry lab; rather, it’s the result of millions of years of plant evolution. Despite our huge appetite for caffeine, however, scientists know little about how and why plants make it.” He adds, “The new study . . . sheds light on how plants evolved to make caffeine as a way to control the behavior of animals—and, indirectly, us.”

Caffeine is built from a molecule called xanthosine through a series of enzymatically controlled steps. Enzymes (called N-methyltransferases) sequentially add “methyl” groups to key spots on the molecule, and the result is caffeine. The researchers found that Coffea canephora has 23 genes that produce various N-methyltransferase enzymes. Because these genes appear in different places on coffee genes than they do on tea and cacao genes, the team believes the series of enzymes needed to produce caffeine evolved independently in different plant lineages.5

Molecular biologist Robert Henry, part of the team that dug up coffee’s genetic roots, says, “The interesting thing is that caffeine synthesis has evolved separately in each of the three plants. It’s convergent evolution. Clearly caffeine is a particularly well-designed or biologically effective molecule if it has evolved independently at least three times.”2

The evolutionary researchers believe that the various kinds of virtually unrelated caffeine-producing plants share a very ancient ancestor that had an enzyme that methylated xanthosines. They believe this enzyme mutated again and again to make all the N-methyltransferases in play today. Coauthor Victor Albert explains that the many enzymes in the biosynthetic paths to caffeine are “all descendants of a common ancestor enzyme that started [messing] around with xanthosine compounds.” Albert says that coffee’s genetic ability to make caffeine is “an accident frozen in place very likely by the influence of natural selection.”6 How that hypothetical ancestral enzyme, much less the cellular machinery to build it in the first place, came to be, evolutionists of course cannot explain.

Plants produce caffeine from xanthosine through either of two biochemically distinct, enzymatically controlled pathways. Both production pathways coexist in tea and coffee plants, but the more efficient pathway dominates.7 It is not the different production pathways that the researchers are referring to when they say the caffeine evolved at least twice, but, the fact that the genes encoding the enzymes for the primary production pathway are nested in different locations on the genes of coffee, tea, and cacao.

Until recently the genetic basis for caffeine production in coffee plants had not been explored. If the genes needed to produce caffeine always occurred in similar places on plant chromosomes, evolutionists would assume they had evidence that caffeine production evolved once in a distant ancestor and got passed down through the ages. Now they know that isn’t the case. Therefore, they conclude caffeine production was so well-reinforced by natural selection that it evolved again and again.

Plants that produce caffeine offer a memory-enhancing buzz with a little caffeine in their nectar to pollinating bees, which then return again and again. Scientists also suspect caffeine might be a natural pesticide, supposing that the high concentration of caffeine in some caffeine-producing plants’ leaves might give a bitter jolt to leaf-chomping insects. Some suspect that rotting caffeine-rich leaves are also a deterrent to the germination of competing plants.

Evolutionists thus cite multiple reasons that natural selection would have favored the prosperity of caffeine-producing botanicals each time the series of enzymes needed for it evolved. “It’s a very cool fact that you can use one molecule to do a negative thing and a positive one,” comments neurobiologist Julie Mustard. “It may be a coincidence of biology that caffeine-producing plants have a similar effect on us—toxic at high doses but enhancing our brains at low doses. They’re manipulating all of us.”8

It is indeed “a very cool fact,” but it isn’t molecules-to-man evolution, or even chemicals-to-caffeine evolution. Natural selection could not have produced the information to build the enzymes to synthesize caffeine. The presence of caffeine in many different kinds of plants suggests instead that God designed many kinds of plants with the ability to make caffeine. After all, caffeine may offer many benefits to those plants—positively reinforcing the cooperation of pollinators, discouraging excessive munching by insects, and controlling the growth of competitive plants nearby. This is just a good design, not an example of evolution.

The variations available in coffee’s genome could revolutionize the industry and benefit all. In addition to finding coffee’s genes for linoleic acid production, which affects the aroma and flavor of coffee, the researchers discovered disease-resistance genes that could help crop scientists produce hardier strains. In his editorial commentary “A Wake Up Call For Coffee,” Hebrew University Plant Sciences expert Dani Zamir calls attention to the economic importance of figuring out the potential phenotypic qualities associated with the newly identified genes. He writes, “The key for ensuring that coffee can survive as an affordable crop lies in the genetic variation found in African species.”9

Molecular biologist Robert Henry, part of the team that dug up coffee’s genetic roots, says, “We’re trying to understand the genetic control of the composition of the bean and then subsequently how that influences the ultimate quality of the coffee.”2 Furthermore, “We’d like to be able to extend the range over which we can grow coffee,”2 Henry says, hoping to see quality coffee someday grown successfully in non-tropical climes. He says, “This technology allows us to think about tuning coffee characteristics to a range of different market segments.”2

God created all kinds of plants and animals about 6,000 years ago, and this research supports the idea that God designed many kinds of plants with the ability to make caffeine. As God’s account in Genesis chapter one indicates and biological observations confirm—plants and animals are designed to reproduce after their kinds. We see in biology that great biodiversity develops, sometimes very quickly, as plants and animals vary within their created kinds, expressing much of the variety available in their genomes as well as variations produced through mutations and other ordinary genetic processes. It is, as Zamir notes, the genetic variety available within the coffee genome that produces countless phenotypic variations. That’s how biology works today, and there is no reason to imagine that it worked differently in an evolutionary past.
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:30 pm
to be honest, I didnt understand the first half because of all those big scientific words lol.

But I have a question; my sister has talked to me about this before. It is possible that you can mess around with genes and molecules to make something else but how do we know we are allowed to do such things?

I mean I dont know where it says in the scripture, but I was told, by my sister who I feel often misinterprets the Bible, she said that the fallen angels taught humans how to cross breed and stuff like that.

So yeah, God did provide these things but are we allowed to?  

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Garland-Green

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:57 pm
Note: convergent means coming closer together. So in terms of evolution it means that is evolved separately, independently of the other.
To use the ability to fly as an example; it is believed to have evolved separately both in birds, mammals and insects. Now how a random unguided process like evolution can do something so incredible considering the odds against it happening just once, is hard to explain for the evolutionists.

Another funny example - The platypus.
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It is believed, by those who hold to a naturalistic worldview that the platypus evolved these traits independently from both birds, reptiles and other mammals. Isn't it much more logical to think that they have a common creator, and that is why they share traits across the lines that separate the species? More than anything it shows the incredible creativity of God.  
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:57 pm
STICK MY FIST
to be honest, I didnt understand the first half because of all those big scientific words lol.

But I have a question; my sister has talked to me about this before. It is possible that you can mess around with genes and molecules to make something else but how do we know we are allowed to do such things?

I mean I dont know where it says in the scripture, but I was told, by my sister who I feel often misinterprets the Bible, she said that the fallen angels taught humans how to cross breed and stuff like that.

So yeah, God did provide these things but are we allowed to?


God designed various groups of animals that share a common ancestor to be able to interbreed. This is why we can cross lions and tigers, zebras and donkeys, whales and orcas. Because these organisms belong to distinct families. Now crossing, say, a lion and a zebra is impossible because these two creatures share no relation.

We can cross breed things within their families but God made creatures "to produce after their own kind" which is what we see we can do by creating hybrids, but that is essentially as far as we can practically and ethically take it.
 

Lady Vizsla


Lady Vizsla

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:02 pm
Garland-Green
Note: convergent means coming closer together. So in terms of evolution it means that is evolved separately, independently of the other.
To use the ability to fly as an example; it is believed to have evolved separately both in birds, mammals and insects. Now how a random unguided process like evolution can do something so incredible considering the odds against it happening just once, is hard to explain for the evolutionists.

Another funny example - The platypus.
User Image


It is believed, by those who hold to a naturalistic worldview that the platypus evolved these traits independently from both birds, reptiles and other mammals. Isn't it much more logical to think that they have a common creator, and that is why they share traits across the lines that separate the species? More than anything it shows the incredible creativity of God.


There are so many "examples" of convergent evolution that are just downright ridiculous and very funny. One of them is the evolution of the eye which supposedly evolved like multiple times separately. Within the fruit fly, Drosophila melanogaster there are 50 genes that work to construct it's complex compound eye. This alone is staggering. I find it funny that eyes just magically evolved again in higher organisms, according to evolutionary theory.
 
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