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 Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:17 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:24 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:35 pm
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Guns will not be allowed at Hogwarts, much like it isn't allowed at any other muggle schools. Following the regular laws in several countries, if a gun was to be spotted, the student will be immediately escorted off the premises, suspended, and maybe even expelled. In Hogwarts' case, the student will be immediately expelled. If we're talking about a professor, then he will be immediately fired and sent to trial for public endangerment.
The crew is treating firearms similar to the Killing Curse.
I would highly advise against bringing such weapons onto Hogwarts grounds, as the consequences are very, very high, and would probably make your character un-roleplay-able for the future. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:22 pm
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Xaccheus What I mean is that magic as a weapon requires line of sight. Shotguns require a general direction. Plus, a semi-auto handgun in the hands of a professional can fire off three or so rounds before you have that half second to react to the gunman, draw the wand and use a nonverbal spell. Plus they're a lot less flashy.
All depends if the charms that surround Hogwarts produce a magnetic field. A magnetic field can alter quite a bit of different things...even down to the weather if optimized. The earth's magnetic field is connected with the weather. So, it could in turn effect the non-electrical metal parts. Who knows, it could render the shooting mechanism completely useless. Plus, one has to take in percent of error of the firearm in which it stalls, which yes, is relatively low, but it happens. Also weather and the user's reactions could be slower, because there are wizards who can perform wandlessly and nonverbally at the same time. So it'll be like a quick draw. Because a wizard could pull up a shield and block until the magazine is out, because their hand reacts just as fast as the other persons. Essentially, it is impossible to say whether or not a gun can truly out do another human reaction, because there is no substantial evidence proving either way because the human element of emotion, reaction, and nature totally differ among subjects. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:27 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:53 pm
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I think you're misunderstanding something here. While it is true that the solar magnetic field alters Earth' weather conditions and that research has shown to support the thesis that the magnetic field impacts the climate via blocking of cosmic rays, it is very, very difficult to recreate a field of such magnitude in such a small area. Hogwarts is, by far, only several dozen acres, and is by no means enough to have a magnetic field created to impact its weather: The magnetic field would need to be exponentially strong, and every human will die long, long before that happens (humans in a roughly 16T field will suffer vertigo--the currents created in your blood will stop your heart at a higher Tesla). I would read a few articles about biomagnetics/bioelectromagnetics before taking this conversation further. It would also depend on the type of magnetic field created (uniform, nonuniform, diamagnetic, etc).
Now suppose that, because we're talking about magic, there is a spell that allows wizards and witches to create a "suit" that renders them immune to the effects of the field in question. Modern guns are created such that it can be used in any weather, rain, thunder, snow, etc. If we're talking about weather, then it's the pressure that makes the major difference, not anything else. Casting a spell to create a magnetic field, then to shield the human body from its dangers, then giving it infinite power to alter the weather, and finally to alter the trajectory/use of a gun is a really roundabout way of achieving it. Using a regular knock-back spell would be more than enough to disarm your opponent. Or even a boulder summoned from the Earth. I would keep in mind that the wizard would not have any type of knowledge about muggle technology (unless said person is a really fortunate scholar), and taking into account that their NEWT is to clean a bathroom using sponge and soap, they would not have the necessary knowledge to use fancier spells such as magnetic field manipulation and pressure manipulation (because how would they know those things affected said gun?).
There is a concept called "eddy current brake", which has been hypothesized that it can stop a bullet. It won't be something wizards can get their hands on, though, but you don't need an impossibly strong magnetic field to stop it (also, based on how magnetic fields work, it cannot be a constant magnetic field: it is the alternating currents that ultimately creates the electric field needed to stop moving metal objects). The field will still probably kill you before it can stop a bullet, however. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:35 pm
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Yes, but that isn't my point, all I really was saying was if a magnetic field could be manipulated enough, quite a bit can be achieved. The weather part had nothing to do with the actual shooting the gun part. I was just giving a theory about how powerful they can be and their capabilities. I obviously was not too concise on this possibly due to sleep dep, but it's whatever.And the fact that we are talking about a supernarural world here. So in theory, what's thought to be impossible could very well be possible in a supernatural world.
And I get every human will die in real world scenario, but it just leads me back to the whole supernatural part. It's really impossible to know anything about a supernatural world, even if part of it does work on human laws of physics and real world scenarios. The very existence of such a being as a wizard, or even a simple levitation spell would disprove so much on its own. But really now I'm going into way too much philosophy and not fact.
And fact is, yeah, you are correct, it would be an impossibility to produce such a thing at a more micro scale in a real life scenario. And I actually would like to read about the theory you talked about as well. And that is why james bond's watch performs impossible tasks lol.
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Cinnabun Gryffie Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:40 am
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:33 am
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Regardless of what you state, it is still highly illegal to own a gun in England, save for hunting rifles, I believe. Also, the problem isn't exactly stopping the bullet. That happens when it hits anything with sufficient mass. It's what happens with all the energy that you just stopped. Energy isn't lost, and instead is converted. In the case of bullets, something has to absorb the shock of that energy hitting it. In the case of kevlar, it absorbs the shock of the bullets hitting it and disperses it throughout the material. Same is true with ceramic armour, which takes the energy and shatters the ceramics instead of letting the bullet go through. May leave bruises, but that's better than bleeding to death because of traumatic injuries. This is why no real magnetic force field would be effective, because you would have to do something with the energy you just stopped cold.
As for the whole idea of bringing a gun to Hogwarts, one, you would need a plot request, and two, it would need to be approved. I would also have to say that unless you can convince the crew to any major event (ie, captains and vice-captains), it would not be permitted. Major events are usually events that include a wide variety of people or happen to affect the wizarding world and/or school as a whole. If a student was found with a gun in their posession there would be a zero-tolerance mindset as the offending student would be expelled from the school and possibly facing jail time, and more than likely anyone not a student would be finding themselves with jail time. I just figured I would throw my two cents in considering I do happen to be the captain of the guild. >.>;;;; |
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:43 pm
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:35 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:08 pm
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