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How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tutsy-Pop?
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over 1000
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The World may never know!
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Neisan-kun_Kamui

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:51 am


Only so many people know wherer to get art supplies that are just awesome for american artist. Well, here is a list of some of the things that most people (especially beginners) need to know about:

You can get all of these supplies from one type of brand: Deleter
Which is the main brand that KNOCK (my manga-ka group) uses.
You can see some of my random artwork using these supplies at:
http://www.jonetsuitamashii.deviantart.com

Manga Paper:
For Proffesional/Commercial Publishing use Size B4
For Doujinshi use A4 or B5
For Color Illustrations, Kent Paper seems to be the best

Pen Nibs:
For fine lines: Maru (great for small details such as hands and hair. I use this nib for most of my work, but they are much more expensive)
For even lines: Saji (I use these for illustrations, but you can use these with pressure if you want uneven and smooth lines)
For thick lines: G-Nib (great for action scenes and manga realism)

Pencils:
I use Zebra mechanical pencils, but for large drawings, use standard pencils (maybe F, HB, or 2B)

Ink:
I use Sumi (indian ink) But there is a large variety of inks. For color illustrations, make sure that you use water proof and non-water solluable (if that is spelled right xD)

Screentone:
There is a LARGE amount of different types of tone you can use. But if you want to save your money... use digital tones. I use Deleter ComicWorks. There are also many different brands, but that all comes from experience.

Coloring:
I just started using Prismacolor pencils, but pencils are harder to use than markers. But if you are going to use pencils, make sure that you add LIGHT layers, for that can be a hassle to erase. And blend every now and then. With markers, they are softer, and tend to be expensive, but DON'T get Prismacolor makers. You may be better off with Neopiko or Copic. I am trying to get some Neopiko markers, but McDonalds doesn't pay too much xD;!!

Well, this is just BASIC, so I hope this helps the inspired artist in you!
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:33 pm


I ALWAYS use Pilot pens to ink my drawings and I ALWAYS use BIC mechanical pencils for sketching.

You say not to get Prismacolor markers? gonk Too late. I like them, but I've never used any other marker (besides crayola rolleyes )

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Neisan-kun_Kamui

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:31 am


Well Everybody has a different point of view
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:41 pm


Mechanical pencils don't work very well for shading, and rarely come in any type other than HB, which (for me, at least) is hell on sketching.

And I counted how many licks when I was in 3rd grade. X{D;; 445.

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CuriousKitty

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:24 am


But where can you find all these wonderful supplies? I would love for some great art supplies. I mostly use pens my sister brings home, and Bic mechanical pencils >w<
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:50 am


CuriousKitty
But where can you find all these wonderful supplies? I would love for some great art supplies. I mostly use pens my sister brings home, and Bic mechanical pencils >w<

You can go to:
http://www.akadotretail.com

This is where I get EVERYTHING! They have everything on discount and they are wonderful with shipping.

Neisan-kun_Kamui


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:13 pm


Light layers, eh? I'm still trying to get used to my Prisma pencils (I have the 120 box set) and I really need to improve on coloring x3 But they're really good pencils because they have soft lead. I also use my colorless blender to blend 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:55 pm


does anybody know an art store in canada (around toronto) that sells those stuffs? tried business depot but they don't even know what light boxes or screen tones are xD they don't even have knead erasers nor manga papers xD

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:24 pm


And yet again, IC Screen looses out to Deleter's publicist. But man, what a small list... sweatdrop I have about twice as many nibs alone.

A minor note; one thing that Akadot can't import is the aerosol cans that power the Copic airbrush system. At least, not by air, which is how the guy imports everything. I had to personally smuggle mine.
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:23 pm


I honestly just use my mechanical pencil, any black pen that I find laying around, and Rose Art colored pencils. To blend, I usually either use my fingers or some toilet paper.....when you're a poor college student/artist you find ways of improvising. blaugh

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pandabaka

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:24 am


err........=w=""
I alway use 4B Mechanical pencils for do pencil drawing pic^ ^"" in fact I have not use normal pencil 3 years ago >__>"""""

I use uni pinball0.28 on illustrations^ ^

and use uni fine line 01,03 for dojishin or comic

aum.. for paper..... alway use A4 80-210g

maker... I use copic maker but aum... not working on it much
I alway working on PS but still inkking by hand =w="

screentone - I have a lot of real screen tone but I think use digital screen tone is cheaper>__>"" then *look at my screen tone* I use digital screen tone now *think to give real screen to my friend soon*
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:16 pm


Oh yay! I always get this happy feeling when I buy art supplies (the few times I have.)

I've never used markers, but it seems prisma pencils are kind of easy to use for me now. Meh, I only use mechanical pencils, photoshop, and recently started using Micro pens for my drawings. I need to add more variety to the mediums I use....

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:53 pm


Neisan-kun_Kamui
Only so many people know wherer to get art supplies that are just awesome for american artist. Well, here is a list of some of the things that most people (especially beginners) need to know about:

You can get all of these supplies from one type of brand: Deleter
Which is the main brand that KNOCK (my manga-ka group) uses.
You can see some of my random artwork using these supplies at:
http://www.jonetsuitamashii.deviantart.com

Manga Paper:
For Proffesional/Commercial Publishing use Size B4
For Doujinshi use A4 or B5
For Color Illustrations, Kent Paper seems to be the best

Pen Nibs:
For fine lines: Maru (great for small details such as hands and hair. I use this nib for most of my work, but they are much more expensive)
For even lines: Saji (I use these for illustrations, but you can use these with pressure if you want uneven and smooth lines)
For thick lines: G-Nib (great for action scenes and manga realism)

Pencils:
I use Zebra mechanical pencils, but for large drawings, use standard pencils (maybe F, HB, or 2B)

Ink:
I use Sumi (indian ink) But there is a large variety of inks. For color illustrations, make sure that you use water proof and non-water solluable (if that is spelled right xD)

Screentone:
There is a LARGE amount of different types of tone you can use. But if you want to save your money... use digital tones. I use Deleter ComicWorks. There are also many different brands, but that all comes from experience.

Coloring:
I just started using Prismacolor pencils, but pencils are harder to use than markers. But if you are going to use pencils, make sure that you add LIGHT layers, for that can be a hassle to erase. And blend every now and then. With markers, they are softer, and tend to be expensive, but DON'T get Prismacolor makers. You may be better off with Neopiko or Copic. I am trying to get some Neopiko markers, but McDonalds doesn't pay too much xD;!!

Well, this is just BASIC, so I hope this helps the inspired artist in you!

Manga paper, you say? I just use normal drawing paper. (not computer paper, the recycled drawing kind) It seems to work just fine for me, and I don't know where to buy "manga paper" anyway.
By "pen nibs" i assume you mean the calligraphy-like pens that cost like $15 a piece. I just use sakura microns. I'm extremely clumsy with intricite skills like using an acutal ink bottle and pen. And digital tones? The programs for those cost quite a bit, too. I'm planning to buy one, though. For colouring, I usually use crayola markers and crayola pencil crayons, even though i just usually shade with my beloved granite pencils all the time.
Maybe if i turn professional, i'll buy all the goods.
-Sakura
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:25 am


Blond_Sakura
Neisan-kun_Kamui
Only so many people know wherer to get art supplies that are just awesome for american artist. Well, here is a list of some of the things that most people (especially beginners) need to know about:

You can get all of these supplies from one type of brand: Deleter
Which is the main brand that KNOCK (my manga-ka group) uses.
You can see some of my random artwork using these supplies at:
http://www.jonetsuitamashii.deviantart.com

Manga Paper:
For Proffesional/Commercial Publishing use Size B4
For Doujinshi use A4 or B5
For Color Illustrations, Kent Paper seems to be the best

Pen Nibs:
For fine lines: Maru (great for small details such as hands and hair. I use this nib for most of my work, but they are much more expensive)
For even lines: Saji (I use these for illustrations, but you can use these with pressure if you want uneven and smooth lines)
For thick lines: G-Nib (great for action scenes and manga realism)

Pencils:
I use Zebra mechanical pencils, but for large drawings, use standard pencils (maybe F, HB, or 2B)

Ink:
I use Sumi (indian ink) But there is a large variety of inks. For color illustrations, make sure that you use water proof and non-water solluable (if that is spelled right xD)

Screentone:
There is a LARGE amount of different types of tone you can use. But if you want to save your money... use digital tones. I use Deleter ComicWorks. There are also many different brands, but that all comes from experience.

Coloring:
I just started using Prismacolor pencils, but pencils are harder to use than markers. But if you are going to use pencils, make sure that you add LIGHT layers, for that can be a hassle to erase. And blend every now and then. With markers, they are softer, and tend to be expensive, but DON'T get Prismacolor makers. You may be better off with Neopiko or Copic. I am trying to get some Neopiko markers, but McDonalds doesn't pay too much xD;!!

Well, this is just BASIC, so I hope this helps the inspired artist in you!

Manga paper, you say? I just use normal drawing paper. (not computer paper, the recycled drawing kind) It seems to work just fine for me, and I don't know where to buy "manga paper" anyway.
By "pen nibs" i assume you mean the calligraphy-like pens that cost like $15 a piece. I just use sakura microns. I'm extremely clumsy with intricite skills like using an acutal ink bottle and pen. And digital tones? The programs for those cost quite a bit, too. I'm planning to buy one, though. For colouring, I usually use crayola markers and crayola pencil crayons, even though i just usually shade with my beloved granite pencils all the time.
Maybe if i turn professional, i'll buy all the goods.
-Sakura


For pens, the Sakura ones are fine I think {I used to have a set} unless you want dynmaic lines, which are a good thing. Ink pens take time to get used to, but you get better quality. =3
The nibs aren't that expensive, either. I just got a 'sketch set' of nibs with 2 holders for $3. I think it came with about 8 nibs?

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:25 pm


arrow Manga Art Supplies: Personally, I don't use that many professional manga art supplies. At least not in terms of paper. I personally don't think I need manga paper, which is probably overpriced anyways. I use cardstock for marker art, I've bought a pack of 70 at Target for like.. 3 bucks or something. Printer paper for linearts I plan on CG-ing, and the good old sketch book for other works and practice. If I want to get pricey, I like using bristol board for marker work. It's not cheap like card stock, but it's nice and thick and smooth. If you plan on publishing though, manga paper is the way to go because of the sizes. I'm more of an illustrator.

arrow Deleter and Copic: I actually don't like Deleter for markers and pens. I like Copic the best. The copic papers are actually really good as well. I also prefer the Copic multiliners and technical pens the best. The new refill aluminum casing is a dream. I can't live without those. Even though the initial cost of the pen is 6.50, the refills are only 2.50, and in the long run, without having to replace the pens for 4.50 everytime like I used to is a lot cheaper. The different color inks are also fun to make different color linearts with. You can get different effects with the overall artwork depending on the color of the lineart.

But you're right about the nibs, I hear the maru nibs are really good. I don't ink with india ink or other inks, so I can't speak from experience.

From experience though, I have to say the Copic markers are better if you're going to decide between Neopiko and Copics. Neopikos I hear run out of ink quite fast according to my friend. And my friend who's used them before have had the nibs fall off on her before. For the copics, you can refill the ink, and just like with the pencils, it's more cost efficient in the long run. With neopiko, the ink is the same, but you can't refill or replace nibs. But it's up to you, the neopiko might be cheaper, but you have to think of the long term if you're an artist. I'd rather refill than rebuy whole markers.

arrow Pencil: Pencils, I just use .5 mm mechanical pencils. Someone stated that you can't shade with mechanical pencils, but I beg to differ. You can shade just as well, you just have to handle the media differently. I also love to do lines and shading with ball point. It's quite fun.

arrow About screentoning and CG: Yes, Deleter has good CG programs. It is also known in the domestic US as the Open Canvas program. You can also buy this online as a download at http://www.portalgraphics.net/en/ if you don't want to buy the software. You cannot get the manga studio/screentone Deleter CG program from this site though. Just another source other than that art site you suggested. x3 I really want this program, but I've yet to be able to pay for it. It's also a LOT cheaper than photoshop though, even though that's what I use.

Other programs I use: Painter 8, Open Canvas 1.1, Photoshop 7.

arrow Prismacolor: I love prismacolor. I learned with color pencils first before marker. I just bought another set of prismacolor yesterday for 50% off at a sale at my Aaron Brother's store. I really recommend these. They're out for my blood. The only reason they're hard to erase is because of the high wax content in these pencils. This is actually the reason why they blend a lot better than other color pencils. You have to be more careful when you use them, as with any media. And prismacolor markers are just as good, I love them just as much. These are what I currently use, because last year I also bought a set for 50% off at the same sale. Until I can afford Copics for a good price, I'll be stuck practicing with these for now. So far I only have about 7 copic markers which I'm practicing monochrome with, they're a dream. And because of the practice I've had with prismacolor, they were a lot easier to graduate into.

arrow Other mediums: I've started getting into pastel and acrylics. Fine arts baby! My art class got me into them. I'd love to try and do some manga/anime artwork with these supplies, but we'll see. And watercolors are a dream for anime/manga artist, I bought a water brush for the purpose of this (brushes you can fill with water), but I don't really have the time to work with water and everything and set up an area.

Hope this helps, this is long, but this is what I use. Which is a LOT of crap. I like variety. =) That said, I think I might be more biased for Copics, but if you like Deleter, more power to you, they have some quality stuff.
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